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Nzoner's Game Room>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

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Donger 09:50 AM 12-17-2020
Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball:
Nothing in your post is accurate
Yes, all of it, including this:

Except that every time we see increases in cases, we see increases in hospitalizations and deaths.

You really challenge that?
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Pasta Little Brioni 10:14 AM 12-17-2020
Dinger why are you risking the spread then? You literally seem piss your pants frightened of it. Seems you are lying.
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MahomesMagic 11:35 AM 12-17-2020

No state has adopted as stringent a response as CA.

Why isn’t there more discussion of what we can learn from the fact that CA has nonetheless utterly failed at containment? https://t.co/F6rUB3iVn3

— Newman Nahas (@NahasNewman) December 17, 2020

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Rain Man 11:45 AM 12-17-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
I'd be hesitant to say a MI happening when someone has Covid isn't a Covid death. Thats a tough situation to lay out TBH.
I once served on a child automotive fatality review board. It's a great example of how nothing is really straightforward. If you have a case where a kid was killed in a routine minor crash by a red light runner solely because he wasn't in a car seat, then was the death due to running a red light or not being in a car seat? Or if a drunk 16 year-old runs the right tires off of the shoulder on a rural road, overcorrects because she's never been in that situation, and then rolls the car, is it a drunk driver fatality or a poor training fatality or an engineering fatality for the shoulder dropoff or a fatality due to a long response time given the location?

It's easy to think that this stuff is straightforward, but there's often a cascade effect where one thing may start the problem but it's the combination that results in the death.
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petegz28 12:14 PM 12-17-2020
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
I know all about that. You are correct. But we also know people who are counted as Covid dead because they tested positive on PCR test. Many states have been doing death certificate matching, looking for more to add as Covid casualties.
Originally Posted by Donger:
Prove that.
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
PHOENIX – Arizona health authorities reported 172 new coronavirus deaths Thursday, the most in a single day, although 78 of them were identified through death certificate matching.

Arizona Department of Health Services also reported 2,525 new cases, bringing the state’s documented totals to 170,798 COVID-19 infections and 3,626 fatalities.

https://ktar.com/story/3448321/arizo...cate-matching/
Originally Posted by Donger:
Thanks. And how many of the 300,000 dead do you think that applies to?

Way to move those goal posts.


MH: This is happening...

Dinger: Prove it...

MH :Here's proof...

Dinger: Yeah but ....

:-)
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Donger 12:16 PM 12-17-2020
Originally Posted by petegz28:
Way to move those goal posts.


MH: This is happening...

Dinger: Prove it...

MH :Here's proof...

Dinger: Yeah but ....

:-)
I didn't move anything, pete. You'll notice he didn't answer my last question.

How's that Thanksgiving backlog looking, by the way?
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Pasta Little Brioni 12:17 PM 12-17-2020
Dinger runs away after facts are presented. Nothing new
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petegz28 12:17 PM 12-17-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
I didn't move anything, pete. You'll notice he didn't answer my last question.

How's that Thanksgiving backlog looking, by the way?
Yes you did.....you went from prove it's happening to "yeah but how much do you think it happens?"....
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Donger 12:21 PM 12-17-2020
Originally Posted by petegz28:
Yes you did.....you went from prove it's happening to "yeah but how much do you think it happens?"....
Okay. Pete crayon time...

I asked him to prove it.

He did.

I thanked him for proving it.

I asked him how many. He said he didn't know.
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Donger 12:21 PM 12-17-2020
Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball:
Dinger runs away after facts are presented. Nothing new
I'm sorry, what?
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TLO 12:25 PM 12-17-2020
Inpatients at our hospital system hit their lowest point since late October/early November today.

Hopefully the trend continues.
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petegz28 12:26 PM 12-17-2020
Kan. school district pivots to classroom model after flurry of Fs

https://littleapplepost.com/posts/ef...xiVPDuzZE93yzE
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Pasta Little Brioni 12:40 PM 12-17-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
Okay. Pete crayon time...

I asked him to prove it.

He did.

I thanked him for proving it.

I asked him how many. He said he didn't know.
You sure lie alot
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Donger 12:53 PM 12-17-2020
Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball:
You sure lie alot
Speaking of that, you should probably stick to "CASES DON'T MEAN JACK SHIT!"
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Pasta Little Brioni 12:58 PM 12-17-2020
They don't
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