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Nzoner's Game Room>***** Official ‘25/‘26 KU Men's Basketball Repository Thread *****
smithandrew051 02:13 PM 03-22-2025
Let’s get things back to normal.

Disclaimer:

Any type of argumentative mentions of DH, KJA, or HD will result in a ban from the thread.

Perfectly fine to mention them if it’s relevant to the discussion.
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Kiimo 10:43 AM 03-30-2025
Originally Posted by BWillie:
We can't change the way we feel Kiimo. Im not the only one. And I felt this way at the beginning of the year last year when KU was still good. The game is too transactional. You don't see players grow within a program anymore. You can't count on anyone to stay.

Look, nobody is saying the players don't deserve NIL. The reality is the sport is simply less appealing than it was before. Just about every college fan agrees except you.
I never said it wasn't less appealing. You're arguing with statements I didn't make. I said it isn't destroyed and there are plenty of things that can happen to make it better.

What can't happen is going back to the Big 8 and 1987. That part is impossible.
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BigRedChief 11:04 AM 03-30-2025
Where does this NIL money come from? Is it all donor money or "sponsorships"? And why cant we know the amouint per player and or team? They are no longer "students". They are getting paid.
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Bearcat 11:20 AM 03-30-2025
Originally Posted by Kiimo:
Destroyed a once great thing? Something tells me the 8 6 teams left would disagree. This has been a fantastic tournament. You're soured because we got knocked out in the first round like everyone predicted.

They need to fix some things but acting like it's already ruined is asinine frankly
The first weekend was terrible (one of the largest margin of victories every for the first weekend and no real chaos), and this 2nd weekend has made up for it some with a few great games. And I much prefer chalk.

Not that I think everything has been burned to the ground with NIL and the transfer portal... much like those Bucknell and Bradley losses, you can't look at results immediately after a huge shift and say 'I told you so, everything sucks now!' We'll have to see over 5 or 10+ years how teams deal with it, how players deal with it, adjustments across the board, etc.... and in the long run if it really impacts the product on the court or not.
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BWillie 11:23 AM 03-30-2025
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
And that's exactly the core issue with Self's coaching style. He doesn't seem to be adapting to this Portal/NIL era we live in today.
There is an argument though that winning that National Title hurt Self moving forward because he focused on the result. He thought Since KJ and Juan were on that team then I MUST need to build the team around them. There is an argument that none of KUs struggles are really portal related.

Giving the keys to the kingdom to Juan and KJ for two years in a row there is very little hope. You need multiple NBA players for it to work around them..so it didn't work.

I think it is a little bit of both (portal and hitching the wagon to the wrong players). If we are still floundering after next year then it is time to reevaluate things. Trust in Self until then. His loyalty may be his biggest flaw but with Juan KJ and HD gone it should be addition by subtraction. Self can coach. He's just a bad GM at times.
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BWillie 11:40 AM 03-30-2025
CG - Darryn Peterson
CG - Elmarko Jackson
SF - Josh Dix
PF - Keyshawn Hall
C - Magoon Gwath (Flory but can shoot a little, 2nd in block pct nationally)
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PF - Bryson Tiller
C - Cooper Schwieger (will take less to play here as from OP)
PG - David Coit

I feel like that is the best we can do. Gonna need DP to be a future NBA HOF
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smithandrew051 12:44 PM 03-30-2025
Originally Posted by BWillie:
CG - Darryn Peterson
CG - Elmarko Jackson
SF - Josh Dix
PF - Keyshawn Hall
C - Magoon Gwath (Flory but can shoot a little, 2nd in block pct nationally)
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PF - Bryson Tiller
C - Cooper Schwieger (will take less to play here as from OP)
PG - David Coit

I feel like that is the best we can do. Gonna need DP to be a future NBA HOF
Vernon says Coit is likely to transfer
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KC_Connection 12:49 PM 03-30-2025
Originally Posted by BWillie:
CG - Darryn Peterson
CG - Elmarko Jackson
SF - Josh Dix
PF - Keyshawn Hall
C - Magoon Gwath (Flory but can shoot a little, 2nd in block pct nationally)
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PF - Bryson Tiller
C - Cooper Schwieger (will take less to play here as from OP)
PG - David Coit

I feel like that is the best we can do. Gonna need DP to be a future NBA HOF
Alternatively it would be nice to have a starting SG that can shoot
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smithandrew051 01:39 PM 03-30-2025
Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
Alternatively it would be nice to have a starting SG that can shoot
Elmarko makes more sense for the bench point guard.

Likely won’t do much better than that for a guy to come off the bench in the portal.
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GabyKeepsMeWarm 02:12 PM 03-30-2025
This portal shit is out of control. Wasn’t it originally part of the whole Covid fiasco? Am I wrong? Why does it still exist? Nil is one thing, but paired up with the portal, it’s all a bit much.
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BWillie 04:14 PM 03-30-2025
Originally Posted by GabyKeepsMeWarm:
This portal shit is out of control. Wasn’t it originally part of the whole Covid fiasco? Am I wrong? Why does it still exist? Nil is one thing, but paired up with the portal, it’s all a bit much.
If you don't like the portal you are a boomer and a piece of shit human that doesn't value human rights! Duh.
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dtrain 04:29 PM 03-30-2025
Saw on ESPN Flory is in the portal.
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KC_Connection 05:15 PM 03-30-2025

It’s time to Buy Stock in @KUBaseball

(22-6, 6-3) this team will be in a regional.

America’s Team. pic.twitter.com/HkzeHybfe2

— Caleb Connelley (@calebconnelley) March 30, 2025

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KC_Connection 05:29 PM 03-30-2025

Per @M_Vernon just now on YouTube . Self flew to visit flory today. Doesn’t sound good .

— RCJH (@Kansashoopschat) March 30, 2025

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Ceej 05:33 PM 03-30-2025
Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
Not surprised in the least.

I will say, I am kinda curious where FB will end up and how he will be used.
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smithandrew051 06:36 PM 03-30-2025
Passmore to the portal too.

Doesn’t matter much likely.
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