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Nzoner's Game Room>New Conference re-alignment thread
Saulbadguy 07:57 AM 09-12-2011
The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.
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bdj23 11:00 AM 07-23-2021
Well at least we won't have to watch OU get btfo in the college football playoffs anymore.

And Texas football turns into Nebraska football.

Glorious, really
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Mr. Plow 11:05 AM 07-23-2021
Originally Posted by Pablo:
That would make for a very competitive basketball schedule. We’d get smashed in football but that’s gonna happen no matter what.
Basketball would be a lot of fun. Football would suck just as bad as it always has.
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Dante84 11:05 AM 07-23-2021
Originally Posted by Titty Meat:
I did dumbass.
eeeeasy
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Kiimo 11:12 AM 07-23-2021
lol at Iowa fans out there hating KU in the Big 10. I'm honestly sitting here trying to think what their mascot is.
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Sassy Squatch 11:14 AM 07-23-2021
Insane how fast this went.
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MMXcalibur 11:15 AM 07-23-2021
I'm not disillusioned to believe that all leagues are NOT fueled by the almighty dollar. I know that the Chiefs don't give two shits about anything outside of the bottom line.

But the transparent way that the NCAA and its athletic entities rub everyone's face into it's multimillion dollar buy-outs, and potential gains irritates me; especially given it's tax-free statuses.

Glad that college athletes can start to benefit on their own, but holy shit was it as a long road to walk in order to get to this point.
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kcclone 11:17 AM 07-23-2021
Originally Posted by Kiimosabi:
lol at Iowa fans out there hating KU in the Big 10. I'm honestly sitting here trying to think what their mascot is.

Their athletic budget was $149m in 2020 compared with $89m for KU. Just to give you an idea of what having a relevant football program will do for you.

My point is that football is about 80% of the discussion because that's what moves the needle the most on revenue.
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BryanBusby 11:27 AM 07-23-2021
Snyder is gone. The state of Kansas will not hesitate to sink K-State.

Real surprising that the PAC-12 is sitting on its hands rn
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TribalElder 11:27 AM 07-23-2021
It will be interesting watching Bill Self try to justify still playing K-State after they jump conferences

He was extra butthurt when Mizzou left :-)
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BigRedChief 11:30 AM 07-23-2021
Originally Posted by kcclone:
Their athletic budget was $149m in 2020 compared with $89m for KU. Just to give you an idea of what having a relevant football program will do for you.

My point is that football is about 80% of the discussion because that's what moves the needle the most on revenue.
they will definitely have to commit more money to football.

KU may be talking to the Big 10 but they got a helluva sales to do.

Seems a pretty straightforward question……Is having a blue blood KU basketball team worth that shit football team?
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TambaBerry 11:32 AM 07-23-2021
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
they will definitely have to commit more money to football.

KU may be talking to the Big 10 but they got a helluva sales job to do. Is having a blue blood KU basketball team worth that shit football team?
Seeing how KU is 28th in the nation in revenue with a shit football program, yes they're really worth that much.
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Rams Fan 11:34 AM 07-23-2021
Originally Posted by TambaBerry:
Seeing how KU is 28th in the nation in revenue with a shit football program, yes they're really worth that much.
KU doesn’t really bring in a new media market, though, aside from KC.
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KChiefs1 11:42 AM 07-23-2021
Originally Posted by Titty Meat:
Mike Vernon
@M_Vernon
KU REALIGNMENT HEARINGS:

KU has a call set up with the Big Ten.
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Kansas goes begging to the B1G.
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BryanBusby 11:44 AM 07-23-2021
Originally Posted by Rams Fan:
KU doesn’t really bring in a new media market, though, aside from KC.
Rutgers pulls in about 1% of that NYC market but didn't stop the big10 from inviting that shit program.
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KChiefs1 11:45 AM 07-23-2021
Originally Posted by kcclone:
Their athletic budget was $149m in 2020 compared with $89m for KU. Just to give you an idea of what having a relevant football program will do for you.

My point is that football is about 80% of the discussion because that's what moves the needle the most on revenue.

Kansas isn’t exactly B1G ready. Brutal
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