Originally Posted by staylor26:
So what you're saying is Franklin can't actually win and make plays down the field at the NFL level, so he's just a decoy?
He'll make plays now and then but it's more of a decoy, like Jamo.
Remember that people on this board LOVED Jamo.
Now they want another.
Detroit's offense uses Jamo as a decoy to clear space for Sun God and La Porta (a TE I was promoting last year). [Reply]
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
He'll make plays now and then but it's more of a decoy, like Jamo.
Remember that people on this board LOVED Jamo.
Now they want another.
Detroit's offense uses Jamo as a decoy to clear space for Sun God and La Porta (a TE I was promoting last year).
I love how you act like you've been making this Jamo comparison out of original thought, when the only reason you did it is because I posted a tweet showing just how rare of company Franklin is and Jamo was the one outlier you could point to and say "he's him though, not the others".
And again, Jamo was essentially a rookie this year. The book on him isn't even remotely close to finished. It's not like he didn't show flashes, even in the playoffs.
Also, one of the reasons he was more of a "decoy" this year is he's in a run first offense with an established volume WR1 and a QB with a noodle arm. Jamo would get way more looks in the Chiefs offense with Mahomes at QB. [Reply]
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
He'll make plays now and then but it's more of a decoy, like Jamo.
Remember that people on this board LOVED Jamo.
Now they want another.
Detroit's offense uses Jamo as a decoy to clear space for Sun God and La Porta (a TE I was promoting last year).
Question: Are you open to the possibility that the QB each of these WRs played with the past 2 years is flavoring your assessment of them?
Brian Thomas Jr. played opposite a receiver who would be the top WR taken in most drafts, an absolute do-it-all who demanded tons of attention, and was being thrown to by a dynamic dual-threat QB with 4.3 speed and running ability, who also happens to be a deep-ball specialist.
Franklin played opposite some nice players, but not "top 10 pick in every draft" good like Nabers. His QB was incredibly efficient and effective but didn't throw a lot of deep shots (in an offense that doesn't throw a lot of deep shots).
I think when we see them run, you're going to see Franklin run a better 10-yard split, have a better 40-time, and run better shuttle/agility times.
Which, Combine training aside, if he tops Thomas in all those things there really is no support for the idea that Thomas is a more explosive athlete or separator. [Reply]
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
Question: Are you open to the possibility that the QB each of these WRs played with the past 2 years is flavoring your assessment of them?
Brian Thomas Jr. played opposite a receiver who would be the top WR taken in most drafts, an absolute do-it-all who demanded tons of attention, and was being thrown to by a dynamic dual-threat QB with 4.3 speed and running ability, who also happens to be a deep-ball specialist.
Franklin played opposite some nice players, but not "top 10 pick in every draft" good like Nabers. His QB was incredibly efficient and effective but didn't throw a lot of deep shots (in an offense that doesn't throw a lot of deep shots).
I think when we see them run, you're going to see Franklin run a better 10-yard split, have a better 40-time, and run better shuttle/agility times.
Which, Combine training aside, if he tops Thomas in all those things there really is no support for the idea that Thomas is a more explosive athlete or separator.
Oh he's always laid the groundwork to dismiss all of that. [Reply]
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
Question: Are you open to the possibility that the QB each of these WRs played with the past 2 years is flavoring your assessment of them?
Brian Thomas Jr. played opposite a receiver who would be the top WR taken in most drafts, an absolute do-it-all who demanded tons of attention, and was being thrown to by a dynamic dual-threat QB with 4.3 speed and running ability, who also happens to be a deep-ball specialist.
Franklin played opposite some nice players, but not "top 10 pick in every draft" good like Nabers. His QB was incredibly efficient and effective but didn't throw a lot of deep shots (in an offense that doesn't throw a lot of deep shots).
I think when we see them run, you're going to see Franklin run a better 10-yard split, have a better 40-time, and run better shuttle/agility times.
Which, Combine training aside, if he tops Thomas in all those things there really is no support for the idea that Thomas is a more explosive athlete or separator.
I’ll check in on the underwear Olympics just to spot check things.
But mind already made up on the games.
Thomas JR more wow.
Franklin in the 1st would feel like picking Skyy Moore in the 2nd. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Shoes:
His senior bowl practices were insane too, I'll include a couple highlights. I think I'd be okay with going BPA at #32 and then Ricky at #64.
Just a different level of route running and ball skills.
Haven't looked into him yet, will take a closer look at him and McConkey this week. Finally. [Reply]
Hmmm the senseless arguing on this thread actually led to an interesting debate, thanks Duncan for wrangling the conversation back towards meaningfulness...
IS Thomas Jr the best deep threat or DID he benefit from playing opposite a star?
Franklin WAS the #1 weapon on his team, without a doubt, IS he the better playmaker? [Reply]
Originally Posted by Couch-Potato:
Hmmm the senseless arguing on this thread actually led to an interesting debate, thanks Duncan for wrangling the conversation back towards meaningfulness...
IS Thomas Jr the best deep threat or DID he benefit from playing opposite a star?
Franklin WAS the #1 weapon on his team, without a doubt, IS he the better playmaker?
Jefferson and Chase played together at LSU and they are both great. [Reply]