Kansas City is trading its first-round pick Thursday night, along with three other picks in the 2021 and 2022 drafts, to the Baltimore Ravens in exchange for Pro Bowl OT Orlando Brown and one pick in the 2021 draft and another in 2022, per sources.
Originally Posted by staylor26:
They’re not good and they’re brokedicks. Serviceable implies that they are even available most of the time. They are not good examples to prove your point whatsoever.
Ok. Put Dj Humphries or Kolton Miller in there.
Once you get past 15-18, rushers and Lt's get pretty iffy it seems. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Superturtle:
The real discussion needs to be finding a long term RT. Everyone wants Niang to be that guy but he may just be a bit too injury prone. Penciling him in as an above average swing tackle on a rookie deal isnt the worst.
Let’s go back to 2015 and see who’s list is better/longer if we’re going that far back just so you can have a few examples of above average LTs going from 16-32 range. [Reply]
Originally Posted by staylor26:
One of those guys was drafted in 2015 :-)
Let’s go back to 2015 and see who’s list is better/longer if we’re going that far back just so you can have a few examples of above average LTs going from 16-32 range.
You said there are almost always high impact pass rushers available in that range. I'm talking about the end of the first round where the Chiefs will be picking. So, what, 25-32?
It's definitely more likely a rusher is there at that spot than a LT, no argument there. But I'd say it's more likely there isn't either there than there will be a rusher. [Reply]
Originally Posted by O.city:
Those guys you're touting there combined for 9 sacks. They're fine. The Chiefs need those kind of players for sure.
But it's more likely those guys turn out to be 5-7 sack guys than it is they are perennial double digit types wouldn't you say?
I mean what am I supposed to have learned here?
They were just fucking rookies, and raw high upside ones at that.
They haven’t even come close to reaching their ceiling, so no it’s not “more likely” that they’re 5-7 sack guys.
Oweh and Rousseau absolutely have double digit sack upside, and if their rookie seasons are any indication, they should reach their potential or close to it.
They’re already better than people expected them to be this early. [Reply]
Originally Posted by staylor26:
They were just ****ing rookies, and raw high upside ones at that.
They haven’t even come close to reaching their ceiling, so no it’s not “more likely” that they’re 5-7 sack guys.
Oweh and Rousseau absolutely have double digit sack upside, and if their rookie seasons are any indication, they should reach their potential or close to it.
Possible they do. It would be more outlier though but it does look like 2021 was a potential historic pass rusher draft if what you say here is the case and they do. [Reply]
Originally Posted by O.city:
Possible they do. It would be more outlier though but it does look like 2021 was a potential historic pass rusher draft if what you say here is the case and they do.
Yes, I understand that it’s not the norm.
That’s why I told you last year to stop worrying about the norm, or what you believe to be the rule, and look at the talent.
I’m trying to tell you the same thing about this years class.
I don't know if anyone else has pointed this out, but when we made the trade for Brown one of the biggest questions was about why the Chiefs and Ravens would trade with one another when they appeared destined to face one another in the playoffs. From that perspective, it certainly looks like the Chiefs won this one. [Reply]
