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DaFace 11:23 AM 06-27-2016
A place to talk about investing stuff.
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Peter Gibbons 01:52 PM 01-09-2020
Originally Posted by TinyEvel:
I canít believe how high Apple is. We bought some 18 months ago and watched it go down but held onto it. Whew.
My only regret with AAPL is I didnít buy enough. Many years ago (prior to the 6:1 split), I bought in the mid 70s. I sold half of it when it hit 225. While that was a nice gain, the held piece has done much better. :-)
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mrbiggz 04:44 PM 01-09-2020
Who has shares of TSLA and what are your price predictions for the year?
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DaFace 05:36 PM 01-09-2020
Originally Posted by mrbiggz:
Who has shares of TSLA and what are your price predictions for the year?
Only as part of a mutual fund, but I generally pay attention to them out of personal interest. They're one of the hardest stocks to interpret for me because everyone's betting on the future rather than basing decisions on today. That works out fantastically if they're another Apple or Amazon, but it's just really tough to tell.

I have trouble believing that $450+ is really sustainable, but what do I know. They're good at hype if nothing else.
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mrbiggz 01-09-2020, 08:51 PM
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mrbiggz 08:52 PM 01-09-2020
Originally Posted by DaFace:
Only as part of a mutual fund, but I generally pay attention to them out of personal interest. They're one of the hardest stocks to interpret for me because everyone's betting on the future rather than basing decisions on today. That works out fantastically if they're another Apple or Amazon, but it's just really tough to tell.

I have trouble believing that $450+ is really sustainable, but what do I know. They're good at hype if nothing else.
Tough sell? I am not debating you but just the facts.

1. YoY sales increase of 50% 367k from 245k. 103k delivered in 2017
2. Production rate of GF3 in China at 1k per week already with phase one capacity of 3k. Keep in mind the place was a mud field in December 2018 and started production in October 2019. GF4 in Berlin will be coming sometime next year
3. Negotiations with Fiat\Chrysler to license their skateboard platform and battery tech.

It's also rumored that a million mile battery will be announced on Tesla Investor day in February. I could mention more things but I look at Tesla as the Apple of cars. My price target is 620 by the end of the year.
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Rain Man 09:28 PM 01-09-2020
Originally Posted by mrbiggz:
Who has shares of TSLA and what are your price predictions for the year?
I've got a little smidge of it, but I'm not enough of an expert to make any predictions. I've made some good money on it recently, though, so I'm happy. For a while I thought I'd be lucky to break even, but it rallied impressively this year.
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scho63 08:31 AM 01-10-2020
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
i will be a rich man soon
Your biggest mistake wasn't buying IQ, it was never buying more when it was $15-20 to lower your average cost, especially since you loved it at $30.
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Hog's Gone Fishin 09:12 AM 01-10-2020
Originally Posted by scho63:
Your biggest mistake wasn't buying IQ, it was never buying more when it was $15-20 to lower your average cost, especially since you loved it at $30.
When it's $120 you'll be a jealous man thinking. Damn, my ass got kicked by Clay!
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MagicHef 12:20 PM 01-10-2020
Originally Posted by DaFace:
Only as part of a mutual fund, but I generally pay attention to them out of personal interest. They're one of the hardest stocks to interpret for me because everyone's betting on the future rather than basing decisions on today. That works out fantastically if they're another Apple or Amazon, but it's just really tough to tell.

I have trouble believing that $450+ is really sustainable, but what do I know. They're good at hype if nothing else.
Tesla scares me as an investment because the founder didn't start the company to make money, but to change the vehicle landscape. I'd rather invest in companies whose primary goal is to make money.
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DaFace 12:31 PM 01-10-2020
Originally Posted by mrbiggz:
Tough sell? I am not debating you but just the facts.

1. YoY sales increase of 50% 367k from 245k. 103k delivered in 2017
2. Production rate of GF3 in China at 1k per week already with phase one capacity of 3k. Keep in mind the place was a mud field in December 2018 and started production in October 2019. GF4 in Berlin will be coming sometime next year
3. Negotiations with Fiat\Chrysler to license their skateboard platform and battery tech.

It's also rumored that a million mile battery will be announced on Tesla Investor day in February. I could mention more things but I look at Tesla as the Apple of cars. My price target is 620 by the end of the year.
I get all that. It's still hard to reconcile their $87B market cap being higher than revenues for their entire history (let alone profit, which is essentially zero). It's all a future bet and, while I agree that they seem to be moving in a very positive direction, it won't take much for it all to fall apart.

Again, it's just a matter of whether you think they can keep it up and weather the incoming storm of competitors.

But I'm not a financial analyst, which is why I stick to mutual funds. :-)
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lewdog 01:22 PM 01-10-2020
Originally Posted by scho63:
Your biggest mistake wasn't buying IQ, it was never buying more when it was $15-20 to lower your average cost, especially since you loved it at $30.
He loved it at $40, not $30!

:-)
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TinyEvel 02:38 PM 01-24-2020
IQ down more than 8%. Chinese death virus likely to blame.
Time to sell?
Or...
Time to BUY?!
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lewdog 03:01 PM 01-24-2020
Originally Posted by TinyEvel:
IQ down more than 8%. Chinese death virus likely to blame.
Time to sell?
Or...
Time to BUY?!
IQ is a turd sandwich on a plate.
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Rain Man 03:06 PM 01-24-2020
Originally Posted by TinyEvel:
IQ down more than 8%. Chinese death virus likely to blame.
Time to sell?
Or...
Time to BUY?!
I'm bullish on the Chinese death virus. It's got a lot of growth potential.
Anyone know its stock symbol?

This year is not starting out on a good note for me. It seems like I'm lagging the market on up days and nose diving worse than the market on down days. Both of those things should not happen.
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RunKC 04:19 PM 01-29-2020
Thought about buying Tesla on Monday. Didn’t.

Today it was up over 2%....then 11% more after hours. Fuck me
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scho63 01:50 AM 01-30-2020
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Thought about buying Tesla on Monday. Didnít.

Today it was up over 2%....then 11% more after hours. Fuck me
My best friend is up $300 a share in about 2-3 months in his retirement account on 400 shares. Unbelievable. :-)
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