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kccrow 07:57 AM 03-25-2024
I haven't done a mock in a week or three so here's my highly opinionated version of what I feel Veach may do with the remainder of Free Agency and the draft.

Re-sign LT Donovan Smith for 3y/51.0m w/18.0m SB and 5.0m RB in each of 2025/2026. Cap hits: 12.0/17.0/22.0
I can see a world where Smith should get an extension similar to that of Buffalo's Dion Dawkins, so that's what I'm prescribing here. Smith turns 31 during the season and this is, essentially, a 2-year deal. Keep the LT position out of flux for a bit while working on developing an LTotF, which Wanya Morris clearly is not.

Re-sign DE Mike Danna for 1y/3.5m w/1.5m SB
Danna has been a solid, yet unspectacular base end in this defense and would be great to have around another season with Omenihu hobbled to start and the Chiefs not having a firm grasp on what they have with FAU. The fact that Danna is unsigned at this point probably means he doesn't have quite the value originally though. Some slightly more productive players have received about 6 per. Teams probably think he is about maxed, and I think he is too.

Sign LB Mykal Walker (PIT) for 1y/1.365m
Walker was productive as a starter in Atlanta in 2022 with 107 tackles and then they abruptly waived him following an injury in training camp before this season. He would bounce around a couple of practice squads before landing in Pittsburgh and starting 5 games at the end of the season for them. He's not ultra-fast but is a solid player who can be a nice rotational, 4th guy that can find starters reps if needed.

Sign RB Matt Brieda (NYG) for 1y/1.96m
Reid likes his fast, jitterbug backs and Brieda is exactly that with 4.38 speed and 6.85 second 3-cone. He's a vet who's been around and can fill the void as a change of pace and receiving back that McKinnon vacates.

Sign QB Carson Wentz (LAR) for 2y/4.0m w/1.0m SB
The Chiefs need a competent backup that can actually take them places if needed and Gabbert isn't it. Wentz at least gives you some confidence should he be called upon much like Chad Henne was.

Draft

1-032: WR Xavier Worthy, Texas (5'11" 165)
Andy Reid loves versatility and speed and Worthy has it in spades. No matter my personal thoughts, this is the guy I think Andy will target in the draft, and it very well could mean using draft capital from 2025 to move up for him, which is more likely than not IMO. In any event, I'm sticking Worthy in here as the top pick for KC.

2-064: TE Theo Johnson, Penn State (6'6" 259)
Not having Travis Kelce at any point would send shock waves through this offense and last year had to have put at least a small scare into the club. Johnson is a prototype from a height/weight/speed perspective with an identical profile to Jimmy Graham. Johnson shows the ability to threaten the seams and a year under Travis would go a long way towards improving his ability to sit in the soft spots in zone. He's what you want from your Y which is really hard to pass on. This may feel early but Kelce was pick 63 in 2013.

3-095: CB Andru Phillips, Kentucky (5'11" 190)
It seems like Veach goes through all drafts thinking about DBs and he's done a masterful job so far. While I think McDuffie moves outside and Nazeeh Johnson plays the nickel this year, I don't see Veach remaining comfortable with the current room should a starter go down as Watson has been very mediocre and both Nic Jones and Ekow Boye-Doe are unproven. Phillips is strong in press and tight man coverage and tackles like a safety, much the same as Sneed. In fact, aside from pure top-end speed, I see them as similar prospects coming out of college.

4-132: DT Jaden Crumedy, Mississippi State (6'4" 301)
I may be quite a bit higher on Crumedy than some but I like his snap quickness and his speed to power. He shows a great closing burst once he finds the ball carrier. I think Crumedy will be a really nice player once he learns to use his hands better and get them into the blocker more quickly. I think he'll be better in a one-gap front where he doesn't have to hold back and read.

5-159: WR Ainias Smith, Texas A&M (5'9" 190)
I'll be clear on this thought, he's your slot/gadget/special teams guy that we've seen over and over again with Reid. I love Smith's quickness and agility in the open field. He runs hard and is a difficult tackle. He can even take positive snaps out of the backfield as an RB. He's basically the replacement for Hardman/James.

5-173: LT Tylan Grable, UCF (6'6" 306, 33-5/8" arms)
The length, foot speed, and overall athleticism are there for Grable but he's still learning the position and needs some seasoning. Grable needs to work on his overall positioning, including his base, angles to block assignments, hands, and timing as all are below starting caliber. A team that has patience could get a real treat with a year or two of development.

7-221: RB Jase McClellan, Alabama (5'10" 221)
McClellan is the type of back that would make Andy Reid proud as he does everything pretty well, including pass blocking and catching the football. If McClellan had homerun-hitting speed, he'd probably be a 3rd or 4th rounder. That said, he has adequate speed though you'd like to see a little more burst on inside runs. I think this is a kid that can be productive on 3rd down for you right away.

Roster

QB: P. Mahomes, C. Wentz
RB: I. Pacheco, M. Brieda, J. McClellan, L. Perine
WR: R. Rice, H. Brown, X. Worthy, J. Watson, A. Smith, S. Moore, K. Toney
TE: T. Kelce, N. Gray, T. Johnson, I. Smith
LT: D. Smith, T. Grable
LG: J. Thuney, W. Morris
OC: C. Humphrey, M. Caliendo
RG: T. Smith
RT: J. Taylor, L. Niang
DE: G. Karlaftis, M. Herring, C. Omenihu(*IR)
DT: J. Jones, J. Crumedy, T. Wharton, M. Dickerson
NT: D. Nnadi, M. Pennel, I. Buggs, N. Ferrell
DE: M. Danna, F. Anudike-Uzomah, B. Thompson
LB: N. Bolton, L. Chenal, D. Tranquill, M. Walker, C. Jones
CB: T. McDuffie, J. Williams, A. Phillips, J. Watson, N. Jones, N. Johnson
DB: J. Reid, B. Cook, C. Conner, D. Bush
ST: H. Butker, M. Araiza, J. Winchester
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duncan_idaho 08:50 AM 03-25-2024
That's a lot of coin for Donovan Smith and kind of tough for me to get on board with, but I think it's a possibility.
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Hoover 11:46 AM 03-25-2024
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
That's a lot of coin for Donovan Smith and kind of tough for me to get on board with, but I think it's a possibility.
Agree. I think the contract/commitment to Smith is to justify not doing a single thing along the offensive line besides throwing a 5th rounder at it the T position.

I just don't think that's realistic. With the entire core of the offensive line coming having their deals coming up, I just can't see this team do nothing to address the future, especially considering the price tag of our impending free agents.

I think people better prepare for another 2nd round WR. And drafting three in this draft is a fucking pipe dream. I get that the talent in there, but the targets are not. Hard to develop a WR when they are not going to get the ball.

It feels to me like the Chiefs are locked in on the OTs, and frankly going to shop for IOL stranding in round 3 too. Its not sexy, but its the realty of their situation.
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Willie Lanier 01:10 PM 03-25-2024
Any thoughts on khyree jackson out of Oregon in the third? I like his size and athleticism better...
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Dunerdr 02:21 PM 03-25-2024
My only pause is Theo Johnson. Just haven't seen enough of him yet. And personally I wouldn't mind locking up D. Smith. If the training staff signs off on it, it would be nice not worrying about it every off season like we have since 2020. As always great work and its appreciated!
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Bowser 04:33 PM 03-25-2024
So get D Smith on what is essentially a two year contract and load up on weapons this draft knowing you have the extra third next draft to chase a LT of the future.

I see you working.
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kccrow 04:51 PM 03-25-2024
Originally Posted by Hoover:
Agree. I think the contract/commitment to Smith is to justify not doing a single thing along the offensive line besides throwing a 5th rounder at it the T position.

I just don't think that's realistic. With the entire core of the offensive line coming having their deals coming up, I just can't see this team do nothing to address the future, especially considering the price tag of our impending free agents.

I think people better prepare for another 2nd round WR. And drafting three in this draft is a fucking pipe dream. I get that the talent in there, but the targets are not. Hard to develop a WR when they are not going to get the ball.

It feels to me like the Chiefs are locked in on the OTs, and frankly going to shop for IOL stranding in round 3 too. Its not sexy, but its the realty of their situation.
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
That's a lot of coin for Donovan Smith and kind of tough for me to get on board with, but I think it's a possibility.
The contract is a bit high and maybe I'm overthinking where to value him.

As for justifying the draft, that wasn't my intent though it is a forethought. I've been the strongest proponent for moving up for an LT on this forum. I feel you aren't gaining much over what Smith provides unless you move for one of the top 3 LTs.

I really want Fautanu but you have to hope he makes it past New Orleans at 14 before you can start thinking about it. I feel like 16 and 19 are your target spots in this draft as Seattle and Los Angeles tend to be teams that are willing to trade down and they sit before the gauntlet of teams that also need LTs.

So, I'm kind of playing off Veach's MO in that he hasn't done this before so why think he will now. That may be a stupid way to go about it, but he had a prime opportunity to take advantage of a really good class a few years ago and he instead traded for Brown.
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kccrow 04:52 PM 03-25-2024
Originally Posted by Bowser:
So get D Smith on what is essentially a two year contract and load up on weapons this draft knowing you have the extra third next draft to chase a LT of the future.

I see you working.
Probably a good way to work it. Play to one of the strengths now. There's a lot more RTs than LTs in this year's top group.
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Stryker 05:50 PM 03-25-2024
Originally Posted by kccrow:
The contract is a bit high and maybe I'm overthinking where to value him.

As for justifying the draft, that wasn't my intent though it is a forethought. I've been the strongest proponent for moving up for an LT on this forum. I feel you aren't gaining much over what Smith provides unless you move for one of the top 3 LTs.

I really want Fautanu but you have to hope he makes it past New Orleans at 14 before you can start thinking about it. I feel like 16 and 19 are your target spots in this draft as Seattle and Los Angeles tend to be teams that are willing to trade down and they sit before the gauntlet of teams that also need LTs.

So, I'm kind of playing off Veach's MO in that he hasn't done this before so why think he will now. That may be a stupid way to go about it, but he had a prime opportunity to take advantage of a really good class a few years ago and he instead traded for Brown.
So what would it cost the Chiefs to move up to 16? A LOT I presume. I don't think that is an option - I LOVE the player but man what we would have to give up to get him.

I too appreciate your mock here and I think you did very well! :-)
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ntexascardfan 08:04 PM 03-25-2024
I read this morning that folks are hearing Jatavion Sanders is a guy dropping on boards.

If he's there in the late second, we should trade up a bit for him. Testing aside, the guys has a ton of great tape catching the ball.
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kccrow 10:16 PM 03-25-2024
Originally Posted by Stryker:
So what would it cost the Chiefs to move up to 16? A LOT I presume. I don't think that is an option - I LOVE the player but man what we would have to give up to get him.

I too appreciate your mock here and I think you did very well! :-)
Postulating...

1-32, 3-95, 2025 1st for 1-16, 4-118
or
1-32, 2-64, 2025 2nd for 1-16
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Couch-Potato 10:49 AM 03-26-2024
I like the D Smith signing, but was hoping we'd bring him in for less. That OL took us to the SB last year so they can't be all that bad! Love that doing so might free us up to take weapons in the draft, I'm just not sure about the OL targets at the bottom of the 1st and personally like the depth guys in he 4-5th as a better solution.

If Worthy becomes the guy we hope he does, awesome! I'm not sure which WR I like tin the draft at this point, there's too many options. I trust Andy and Veach, just try not to Sky Moore this one!
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Dunerdr 02:00 PM 03-26-2024
This prompted me to look at Theo Johnson. He's a solid vertical threat for sure. I didn't see him used often coming across the field but I'm sure this staff could develop him and at worst his straight line speed and contested catch ability could prove useful over the middle. Also I forgot to mention it yesterday, I really like the idea of Brieda in this offense.
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