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Saccopoo Memorial Draft Forum>Let's talk WRs
OldSchool 09:52 AM 09-19-2014
Who's your top ranked receiver right now?

For me, the most pro-ready and best all around prospect at WR is Amari Cooper. He would come in and immediately start across from Bowe and eventually replace him as the primary WR.

What's wrong with Sammy Coates?

The guy has all of the tools in the world, I would equate him to Vernon Davis but at the WR position, but he hasn't produced much at all this season. Coates isn't even close to being his team's leading receiver so I'm not going to blame it on the scheme. Physically, Coates looks like a top 10 pick but his production is that of a mid to late rounder. Where would you take him?

Any thoughts on Coates' teammate, D'haquille Williams?

There is a massive difference in production between he and Sammy Coates so far this year; yes, this could be entirely due to Coates being injured from the Arkansas game but Coates only caught one pass in that game and dropped a possible TD pass despite playing 52 snaps against the Razorbacks. Williams is a JUCO transfer with good size, speed, and explosiveness, though not on the same level as Coates as far as pure physical ability goes. Is he a potential #1 WR or just a 2 at best?

Does DGB declare? If so, do you even dare to touch him given his off-field issues?

Despite not playing this season, I think that there is a real possibility that DGB does declare for the 2015 NFL draft; he just doesn't seem like the type of person who would be willing to go through another year of college over getting paid as a pro athlete. If he does declare, what round would you be willing to take a risk on him? The guy has had problems with at least two key NFL issues, abuse of women and weed. DGB has top 5 talent but an off-field reputation that would have him banned from the league if he had committed those acts as a Pro.

Do Jaelen Strong, Kevin White, or Devante Parker have enough speed to be potential #1 WRs? If not, are their other gifts good enough for them to be close to what Larry Fitzgerald has been in the league?

Is Stefon Diggs actually that fast? When I watch him, I don't see the same dimension of speed that guys like Jackson, Wallace, etc have. I'll be very curious to see what he actually runs at the Combine.

Who are you guys keeping your eyes on this year at the WR position?
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kcbubb 09:28 PM 04-07-2015
Originally Posted by OldSchool:
People saying that you could get a guy like Dorsett later on are full of it. You can't teach the kind of speed that he has. He could come here and make DAT look normal, that's how fast he is. And his hands are more than good enough; if he had played with a decent college QB, we'd be talking about Dorsett as a sure 1st round pick right now just like people were on Cooks' nuts last year.
This. His speed is elite. And his speed is functional football speed. He's not just a track guy. He plays super fast.
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jonzie04 11:06 PM 04-07-2015
Originally Posted by BigChiefFan:
I doubt he makes it out of the top 5. Many have him ahead of Cooper, myself included.
when he wrote that in september, white wasn't anywhere near top 5 pick territory.
:-)
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OldSchool 09:01 AM 04-08-2015
Don't sleep on this kid. Just watching him play reminds me of Jaelen Strong. Granted, Lewis was playing against lesser competition in college but his showing at the Senior Bowl was very encouraging.

Originally Posted by :
Central Arkansas WR Dezmin Lewis "could join the likes of Cecil Shorts and Pierre Garcon... and become the next small-school receiver to make his mark in the NFL," wrote NFL Media analyst Charles Davis.
"He had a good showing at the Senior Bowl and is a big-bodied target (6-4, 214 pounds) who can make plays downfield. 2014 draft steal Martavis Bryant is that type of player, too," Davis wrote. Colleague Daniel Jeremiah agrees, calling Lewis a potential "Cinderella" who could surprise in the NFL. "When I watched him on tape, he was so much fun to watch," Jeremiah said. "Look at how long he is. (He) can stride it out and beat you over the top. A little nifty after the catch, too, for such a long, tall receiver." Lewis is a "natural pass catcher," according to TFY Draft Insider's Tony Pauline.

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kccrow 10:25 AM 04-08-2015
Check out Western Oregon (Division II) product Tyrell Williams.

I just drafted this kid with a 6th round compensatory selection for Houston. I was initially going to draft him for New England, but I got great values with Tre McBride and Kenny Bell and didn't see the need to draft a 3rd receiver. New England has worked this kid out.

This is from NFL.com regarding his Pro Day:

Western Oregon wide receiver Tyrell Williams (6-3 1/2, 204) ran the 40 in 4.42 and 4.44 seconds. He had a 39 1/2-inch vertical jump and a 10-foot-7 broad jump. He did the 20-yard short shuttle in 4.11 seconds and the three-cone drill in 6.55 seconds.



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Sandy Vagina 04:27 PM 04-08-2015
Originally Posted by kccrow:
Check out Western Oregon (Division II) product Tyrell Williams.
LOVE IT. Someone posted this on another site a couple weeks ago, and it didn't take me long to move him up into my round 5 WR list, lol.

Nice find.. you have a knack for it. :-)
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OldSchool 06:28 PM 04-09-2015
To whoever says that Dorsett has questionable hands:

Originally Posted by :
Miami WR Phillip Dorsett only dropped one pass on 37 catchable targets, according to Pro Football Focus.
Dorsett was targeted 67 times, but only 37 were truly catchable. There is some subjectivity here and in these cases, charters tend to side with the receivers. Regardless, this is an outstanding number for the speedy receiver. It rivals Jarvis Landry's drop rate from last year. Dorsett could be selected in the second round.

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Dante84 11:58 PM 04-09-2015

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Tribal Warfare 12:14 AM 04-10-2015
Originally Posted by OldSchool:
To whoever says that Dorsett has questionable hands:
Of course during an organized pro day/practice is absolutely different compared to doing it in games consistently.
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OldSchool 03:22 AM 04-10-2015
Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare:
Of course during an organized pro day/practice is absolutely different compared to doing it in games consistently.
That's from game tape, not the Pro Day.
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philfree 10:46 AM 04-11-2015
Kiper has 7 WRs going in the first round of latest mock draft with the Chiefs taking Jalen Strong as the 5th WR taken.
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KevB 11:59 AM 04-11-2015
Originally Posted by philfree:
Kiper has 7 WRs going in the first round of latest mock draft with the Chiefs taking Jalen Strong as the 5th WR taken.
Seven seems extreme. Teams late in the first round would more likely take the 2nd best corner, 3rd best OT, etc. than the 6th or 7th WR.
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OldSchool 03:08 PM 04-11-2015
Originally Posted by philfree:
Kiper has 7 WRs going in the first round of latest mock draft with the Chiefs taking Jalen Strong as the 5th WR taken.
I can see 5, maybe. 4 for sure:

1. White
2. Cooper
3. Parker
4. Strong
5. Perriman

Agholor, DGB, and Dorsett are the ones who can sneak in there, but they'll probably go high in the 2nd.
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The Franchise 03:33 PM 04-11-2015
My guess is 4. I think the top 3 plus Strong. Perriman goes at the top of the 2nd.
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OldSchool 04:34 PM 04-11-2015
Originally Posted by Dicky McElephant:
My guess is 4. I think the top 3 plus Strong. Perriman goes at the top of the 2nd.
How would you compare him to Latimer last year?
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smith11 02:38 AM 04-12-2015
is devante parker a fit for the chiefs
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