BREAKING: Herm Edwards is expected to be Arizona State’s next football coach pending approval of University President Dr. Michael Crow https://t.co/tZAfzu1Rs1
Originally Posted by Buehler445:
I told you I’m not reading that hogshit. I can’t stand that man. I’m not going to look up examples for you where you will just make up some damned other excuse for your hero. Just like you did with your dumbass 3 years in the league with Vermiels roster. **** that shit. If you’re too goddamned simple minded to remember him taking about ball control before games I don’t know what to tell you man.
Herm was and remains a fraud. Just because you can’t see how your hero was completely clueless regarding the offense I won’t help you. I already tried with your ridiculous just what the franchise needed ridiculousness.
If you hate Herm, that's your opinion. I don't care what you think about how he built his roster. We've debated that plenty.
The claim that he rejected Gailey's offense is an accusation on a totally unproven "fact." It's a totally baseless accusation. Own up to it. Unless you can find a single shred of evidence that Herm wanted to completely scrap the spread or that he openly rejected what Gailey was doing.
You made the accusation, not me. Back it up. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Buehler445:
Did I say he was 100% wrong? I said he was a shit coach and a shit personnel man. He was bad at every single aspect of his job but he’s not 100% wrong.
In point of fact he was on the radio a few weeks back talking about when he suspended LJ for smacking that chick. I listened to it, remembered what happened and I’m totally on board with what he did.
Cutting some high priced used up guys was the right call. A few draft picks were the right call (even if he was too ****ing stupid to use Charles when anybody with a brain could see he was better than LJ). And if he really was the driving force to make King Carl give up the Marty approach that was right too.
He was shit at every aspect of his job but I’m not blind to what he did right.
And I’m not like the Alex Smith haters. I was probably one of the last ones that defended him outside of the but huggers. I didn’t want to bench him before we drafted Mahomes because there wasn’t a better option. I am opinionated but I’m not a blind rage monster like you allege.
You are just incomprehensibly white knighting the worst coach I’ve seen.
Sorry, I find it just a little ridiculous that in the world of Bill Callahans, Bob McAdoos, and Romeo Crennels, that people act like Herm was the worst coach to ever live. Compared to those coaches, he's a hall of famer.
I'm glad to see what you said above. I agree with most of it. That is the first I've heard of you even hinting at a compliment so I wasn't aware that's where you stood. And no, I'm not white knighting Herm. Calling him "not good" is not a defense of him as a coach. It's a defense against people who have such an irrational hatred for the guy. [Reply]
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501:
If you hate Herm, that's your opinion. I don't care what you think about how he built his roster. We've debated that plenty.
The claim that he rejected Gailey's offense is an accusation on a totally unproven "fact." It's a totally baseless accusation. Own up to it. Unless you can find a single shred of evidence that Herm wanted to completely scrap the spread or that he openly rejected what Gailey was doing.
You made the accusation, not me. Back it up.
I've already told you, you couldn't pay me enough to go through his press conferences. Especially after I went through every roster spot on Vermiels and Herms rosters to prove to you how much of a shit personnel guy he was and you completely dismissed it. Even though you weren't even close to right. No.
That's not even a significant part of my argument. You said this:
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501:
He is too far removed from coaching. But I think people forget that he openly embraced Gaileys pistol offense which was wide open. And heimidinger, who if not for Penningtons injured noodle arm, might have run a pretty vertical offense. I don't think he's as sold on r2p2 as people remember. The Tampa 2, on the other hand... That isn't going to work.
The main part of my response was that you didn't listen to a word he said at the time or since. He still doesn't understand why you throw the ball and it is painfully obvious to this day. But if you want to stand on the table and beat your fist that he was all about a gimmick offense with a truly limited QB that doesn't really help your cause about him being a complete and fucking moron regarding Offense. [Reply]
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501:
Sorry, I find it just a little ridiculous that in the world of Bill Callahans, Bob McAdoos, and Romeo Crennels, that people act like Herm was the worst coach to ever live. Compared to those coaches, he's a hall of famer.
I'm glad to see what you said above. I agree with most of it. That is the first I've heard of you even hinting at a compliment so I wasn't aware that's where you stood. And no, I'm not white knighting Herm. Calling him "not good" is not a defense of him as a coach. It's a defense against people who have such an irrational hatred for the guy.
Crennel could at least call a defense. Are you talking about Ben McAdoo? He could call an offense. Callahan is pretty garbage but I don't see him being materially worse than Squirmin Herman Motherfucking Sack of Cunt Edwards.
I've never said anything about the good things he did because the first thing you said to me about it was blasting me for (correctly) asserting that he wrecked the franchise (because he did).
You very much white knighted him when you said he is "exactly what the franchise needed" While was going about wrecking the franchise. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Buehler445:
Crennel could at least call a defense. Are you talking about Ben McAdoo? He could call an offense. Callahan is pretty garbage but I don't see him being materially worse than Squirmin Herman Motherfucking Sack of Cunt Edwards.
I've never said anything about the good things he did because the first thing you said to me about it was blasting me for (correctly) asserting that he wrecked the franchise (because he did).
You very much white knighted him when you said he is "exactly what the franchise needed" While was going about wrecking the franchise.
Carl and Vermeil wrecked the franchise. Herm was brought in to pick up the pieces. [Reply]
Originally Posted by wazu:
Carl and Vermeil wrecked the franchise. Herm was brought in to pick up the pieces.
It wasn't great Vermiels last year, but it was competitive. It was a goddamned motherfucking joke Squirmin Herman Motherfucking Sack of Cunt Edwards' last year.
ASU has never been great at recruiting. Not sure why? Maybe it's that Phoenix doesn't have a smaller town type college feel to it? Tempe is a happening place for young people though. Women dress with minimal clothing all year, not to mention the pool parties. It would be a great place to go to college IMO. [Reply]
