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ThaVirus 02:06 PM 09-22-2022
About the most recent episode, any ideas why this dude beat the gay guy to death?

One minute they're talking about protecting their paramours and the next, dude's beating his face into a pulp for no apparent reason.
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ModSocks 02:09 PM 09-22-2022
Originally Posted by ThaVirus:
About the most recent episode, any ideas why this dude beat the gay guy to death?

One minute they're talking about protecting their paramours and the next, dude's beating his face into a pulp for no apparent reason.
To protect the princess and their secret i imagine.
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ThaVirus 02:17 PM 09-22-2022
Originally Posted by Detoxing:
To protect the princess and their secret i imagine.
That's what my girlfriend said, but that still leaves the Velaryion kid who knows the secret and now has a supreme grudge against you.

It also seems counterintuitive to bash a guy's brains in publicly to protect a secret.
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duncan_idaho 02:18 PM 09-22-2022
Originally Posted by ThaVirus:
About the most recent episode, any ideas why this dude beat the gay guy to death?

One minute they're talking about protecting their paramours and the next, dude's beating his face into a pulp for no apparent reason.
They had been building up a slow burn of tension and things going awry for Cole the whole episode (and really for the last few).

Being confronted with a too-smiling, smarmy knight who has a big/loud mouth and makes it apparent he knows your secret just pushed him over the edge.

All Cole has is the name he has made for himself, his service in the Kingsguard. His attempt to build something more was somewhat coldly shoved back in his face by the woman he loves and respects.

By killing Flowers and then himself, he protects his secret (better to be a murderer who kills himself out of guilt than a kingsguard who has "befouled" the Princess of the Realm). Except Alicent steps in.

I am enjoying the way they are filling in all the little pieces of context that were left mysterious about the Dance of Dragons, Cole's turn against Rhaenyra being one of them.
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Buehler445 02:26 PM 09-22-2022
Originally Posted by ThaVirus:
About the most recent episode, any ideas why this dude beat the gay guy to death?

One minute they're talking about protecting their paramours and the next, dude's beating his face into a pulp for no apparent reason.
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
They had been building up a slow burn of tension and things going awry for Cole the whole episode (and really for the last few).

Being confronted with a too-smiling, smarmy knight who has a big/loud mouth and makes it apparent he knows your secret just pushed him over the edge.

All Cole has is the name he has made for himself, his service in the Kingsguard. His attempt to build something more was somewhat coldly shoved back in his face by the woman he loves and respects.

By killing Flowers and then himself, he protects his secret (better to be a murderer who kills himself out of guilt than a kingsguard who has "befouled" the Princess of the Realm). Except Alicent steps in.

I am enjoying the way they are filling in all the little pieces of context that were left mysterious about the Dance of Dragons, Cole's turn against Rhaenyra being one of them.
The way I interpreted it, is - on the boat he ham fistedly proposed to her. She rebuffed him with a chuckle. So then he says all he has is his honor which he pissed on when they fuck. And obviously denigrating his honor is killing him.

Then this Jeoffrey fool is up in here just talking about it like it's a good thing, and it pushes him over the edge and he snaps and beats that queer to death.

The taking his own life bit is just so he wouldn't be gilded.

That's the way I read it.
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KC_Connection 08:36 PM 09-22-2022
Originally Posted by ThaVirus:
About the most recent episode, any ideas why this dude beat the gay guy to death?

One minute they're talking about protecting their paramours and the next, dude's beating his face into a pulp for no apparent reason.
For me, it's because Cole was ashamed of himself more than anything else. He was furious that he had degraded himself into being nothing more than that guy was. After being approached by Laenor's lover and having to directly face the fact that he was nothing more than Rhaenyra's whore himself (using his words in the episode), he simply couldn't take it anymore. He was going to kill himself next until Alicent stopped him too.
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Discuss Thrower 02:29 PM 09-22-2022
Criston Cole is a simp bitch.

Also you don't know that Daemon intended to kill the Bronze Bitch unless spooking horses into riling back just perfectly enough to snap a rider's neck is an Old Valyrian genetic trait or something.
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staylor26 03:24 PM 09-22-2022
Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower:
Criston Cole is a simp bitch.

Also you don't know that Daemon intended to kill the Bronze Bitch unless spooking horses into riling back just perfectly enough to snap a rider's neck is an Old Valyrian genetic trait or something.
Yea they make Daemon's intentions a little ambiguous in that scene. He was even going to leave her there until she started running her mouth again.
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Buehler445 03:53 PM 09-22-2022
Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower:
Criston Cole is a simp bitch.

Also you don't know that Daemon intended to kill the Bronze Bitch unless spooking horses into riling back just perfectly enough to snap a rider's neck is an Old Valyrian genetic trait or something.
Yeah, I've seen it postulated that he did it on purpose. That isn't necessarily beyond question.

The rock thing though... Yeah, he smashed her dome. They made a point for the maester to tell the king that the horse smashed her spine AND her head.

Ended up that he murdered her. But after she instigated him. Odds are he went there to do it, but he was unarmed.

It's fairly ambiguous his initial intentions, but yeah, he murdered that gal.

Speaking of... I'd toss one in her. Brag about it too.




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Discuss Thrower 01:32 PM 09-23-2022
Originally Posted by Buehler445:
Yeah, I've seen it postulated that he did it on purpose. That isn't necessarily beyond question.

The rock thing though... Yeah, he smashed her dome. They made a point for the maester to tell the king that the horse smashed her spine AND her head.

Ended up that he murdered her. But after she instigated him. Odds are he went there to do it, but he was unarmed.

It's fairly ambiguous his initial intentions, but yeah, he murdered that gal.

Speaking of... I'd toss one in her. Brag about it too.



He leaves her alive and she can accuse him of trying to murder him. Would Viserys go to bat for him attempting to murder his noble born betrothed at the risk of pissing off the Arryns (who might not be too happy Aemma Arryn died in childbirth) and thus risk war with the Vale?

Beyond that, the reality is Lady Royce is a quadriplegic in brutally austere conditions. Had Daemon dispatched with her in anyway save for bashing her fookin head in with a rock, killing her could have been merciful.
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Bowser 08:20 PM 09-22-2022
He didn't even consummate that marriage. Big thumbs down, Daemon. You moron.
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ModSocks 12:43 PM 09-23-2022
Originally Posted by Bowser:
He didn't even consummate that marriage. Big thumbs down, Daemon. You moron.
Are you suggesting sex with a cripple?

Holy crip it's a crapple!
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BWillie 08:49 PM 09-22-2022
Make it stop. Just make a fantasy network and be done with it so I can in no way shape or form have to see this shit
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BigRedChief 12:15 PM 09-23-2022
Originally Posted by BWillie:
Make it stop. Just make a fantasy network and be done with it so I can in no way shape or form have to see this shit
This is the biggest hit since the original GOT. So millions of people have a different opinion than your opinion. I assume you are use to that.
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staylor26 12:39 PM 09-23-2022
Originally Posted by BWillie:
Make it stop. Just make a fantasy network and be done with it so I can in no way shape or form have to see this shit
:-)
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