Sources: After turning down an extension offer to become the first $50M a year player in league history, James Harden’s message to Houston is clear: Get me to Brooklyn. Rockets and Nets have been in contact, but there’s been no meaningful dialogue. https://t.co/qwJOQOxz5U
Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
The Nets didn't even have to trade any elite talent for James Harden (a top 5 player and one of the best offensive players in the history of basketball). The picks they traded might be worth something down the road, but we can't even say that much right now.
It's just an absurd trade from a value perspective that in all likelihood ruins the competitive balance of the league for a few years similar to Durant's signing with the Warriors (again assuming that Kyrie Irving is actually interested in playing basketball). It's hard to believe the other teams couldn't have offered up more than this.
:-) Houston wanted Simmons, Thybulle, Maxey, and picks. Philly wouldn't give them what they wanted so probably traded him to Brooklyn out of spite. [Reply]
Originally Posted by comochiefsfan:
The NBA is a joke of a league.
Kyrie Irving just decides not to show up to work for weeks on end and nobody seems to care?
Imagine if Kelce just decided he wasn't going to play and went AWOL for weeks on end. He would get lambasted by the media and would become unsignable.
James Harden lets himself get as fat as Jon Gruden and whines about his situation in Houston, and teams bend over backwards to make a deal to send him to a contender.
No accountability whatsoever in the Association. Ownership needs to grow some ****ing balls.
Originally Posted by comochiefsfan:
The NBA is a joke of a league.
Kyrie Irving just decides not to show up to work for weeks on end and nobody seems to care?
Imagine if Kelce just decided he wasn't going to play and went AWOL for weeks on end. He would get lambasted by the media and would become unsignable.
James Harden lets himself get as fat as Jon Gruden and whines about his situation in Houston, and teams bend over backwards to make a deal to send him to a contender.
No accountability whatsoever in the Association. Ownership needs to grow some ****ing balls.
Unfortunately their current CBA runs through the 2024 season so I would hope after that they can regain some control. Players will never give up guaranteed contracts though. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Superturtle: :-) Houston wanted Simmons, Thybulle, Maxey, and picks. Philly wouldn't give them what they wanted so probably traded him to Brooklyn out of spite.
Maybe Morey overplayed his hand, but I do wonder if the owner stepped in to prevent Morey from benefiting from a Harden trade. [Reply]
Originally Posted by comochiefsfan:
The NBA is a joke of a league.
Kyrie Irving just decides not to show up to work for weeks on end and nobody seems to care?
Imagine if Kelce just decided he wasn't going to play and went AWOL for weeks on end. He would get lambasted by the media and would become unsignable.
James Harden lets himself get as fat as Jon Gruden and whines about his situation in Houston, and teams bend over backwards to make a deal to send him to a contender.
No accountability whatsoever in the Association. Ownership needs to grow some ****ing balls.
Great post.
These players are getting away w way too much. You sign a contract you have an obligation to the organization and your teammates to do your best to help the team win.
You don't like the organization then don't sign the ****ing contract in the first place. Go some where else! After you sign that contract there should be no way a player can 'demand' a trade wout severe consequences. Just retire and go play golf.. [Reply]
Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
Of course because I'm biased and would root for anything that would help LeBron (even league crushing moves like that).
These players are getting away w way too much. You sign a contract you have an obligation to the organization and your teammates to do your best to help the team win.
You don't like the organization then don't sign the ****ing contract in the first place. Go some where else! After you sign that contract there should be no way a player can 'demand' a trade wout severe consequences. Just retire and go play golf..
Bull-Fucking-Shit.
These teams hire and fire GM's and coaches constantly, leaving players that have signed long term deals stuck with shitty fucking teams.
It's fucking ridiculous that people like you comment on a league in which you have absolutely zero knowledge. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
Bull-****ing-Shit.
These teams hire and fire GM's and coaches constantly, leaving players that have signed long term deals stuck with shitty ****ing teams.
It's ****ing ridiculous that people like you comment on a league in which you have absolutely zero knowledge.
Lol. Maybe if the ballhog Harden actually played defense and not constant iso-ball Rockets would do better. Shows how much you know about basketball. [Reply]
Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy:
Lol. Maybe if the ballhog Harden actually played defense and not constant iso-ball Rockets would do better. Shows how much you know about basketball.
Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy:
Lol. Maybe if the ballhog Harden actually played defense and not constant iso-ball Rockets would do better. Shows how much you know about basketball.
And, yet, teams are willing to mortgage their future to acquire him. It certainly doesn’t look like the Nets are too worried. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
Bull-****ing-Shit.
These teams hire and fire GM's and coaches constantly, leaving players that have signed long term deals stuck with shitty ****ing teams.
It's ****ing ridiculous that people like you comment on a league in which you have absolutely zero knowledge.
Houston has bent over backwards to try and build a contender around James Harden. They signed CP3 and surrounded them with talent in Clint Capela, Trevor Ariza and PJ Tucker. They had a coach in Mike D'Antoni whose style allowed Harden to play the game he wanted. Houston built a championship team and Harden choked it away and lost to the Warriors in 7.
Then, Harden threw a hissy fit and demanded that Paul be shipped out. So the organization obliged and traded him for Russell Westbrook. That also predictably failed and they shipped him out.
Everything Houston has done the last 8 years has been dedicated to building a championship contender around James Harden as the centerpiece. They invested heavily in him and gave him everything he wanted.
The reality is that James Harden is not a winner and wasn't capable of being "the guy" on a championship team. So instead of taking personal accountability for the Rockets' failures, he cried and blamed the organization and whined his way all the way to a super team.
Players in this league are entitled babies. The product on the floor is great, but the majority of the superstar players are dicks and wusses who are impossible to root for. [Reply]
I never said he sucked but he certainly is not worth his contract and is a terrible leader.
Who cares if Nets are willing to trade for his ballhogging ass! You act like Nets have been winning so many championships lately and are an elite organzation. They are trash themselves. [Reply]
