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Saccopoo Memorial Draft Forum>*** 2022 Mock Draft Megathread ***
duncan_idaho 12:45 PM 11-23-2021
Got a mock? Pop it in this thread. Include a picture if you want. Explain your reasoning if you want. Talk about your crushes... if you want.

See a good "pro" mock? Link it up in here and I'll add it to the OP.

Duncan's latest mock

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The Draft Network This mock seems to be the most accurate site right now, so I go with this one. I don't pay for it, so no trades here. The plan is for this to be my last mock. I'm going to do it differently, though. I'm running 3 scenarios, and eschewing the 7th round picks, which I would use on a big swings on athleticism and potential. Lotto tickets. James Houston IV is one of them. Note: I used PFF to simulate the trade action, then manually backed up in the 2 "trade" drafts to make selections. Laborious, but gives you best of both worlds, IMO. I think PFF's trade tool is the best, but its board is whack.

Draft slot: 29

Scenario 1: The Chiefs sit pat with their picks and don't make any moves at all. Seems the least likely, but hey...
1.29 | George Karlaftis, DE, Purdue.
1.30 | Boye Mafe, DE, Minnesota.
2.50 | George Pickens, WR, Georgia.
2.62 | Travis Jones, DT, UConn.
3.94 | Zyon McCollum, CB, Sam Houston State.
3.103(Comp for Poles) | Troy Andersen, LB, Montana State.
4.121 | Coby Bryant, CB, Cincinnati.
4.135 | Velus Jones, Jr., Tennessee

Scenario 1 Debrief:
So, sitting and waiting to see what comes to me was pretty successful here. The Chiefs FLOOD the defensive line with reinforcements, including at least 1 ready-made starter and two guys who should - at minimum - be in 50/50 rotations at their spots by year end. The Chiefs still get a big outside WR with tantalizing potential. They add some crazy athletic small-school guys, and a mid-round corner who just fits in the system, and a dynamo return man who might be more at WR.

This looks pretty good. Though I have a hard time believing Karlaftis just falls to 29...

Scenario 2: The Chiefs get aggressive and trade up. But for what? In this case, let's go wide receiver. In this run, Kansas City trades picks 29, 62, and a 2023 3rd to Houston for pick 13 and a 2023 4th, because they ARE as obsessed with a WR as people expect and are aggressive to go get him when the board falls right. They then trade BACK from 30 to 35 with the Jets, also including pick 94 in order to get 69 back. Then, last but not least, KC gets aggressive one more time and moves 103 and 121 for 85 from New England, leaving the Chiefs with 6 picks in the first four rounds.
1.13 | Jameson Williams, WR, Alabama.
2.35 | Cam Thomas, DE, San Diego State.
2.50 | Jalen Pitre, S, Baylor.
3.69 | Zachary Carter, DT, Florida.
3.85 | Sam Williams, DE, Ole Miss.
4.135 | Jaylen Watson, CB, Washington State

Scenario 2 Debrief:
I'm not saying KC should do this or even that I think they will (more on that in a few minutes). I'm just saying, man, what will it look like if the Chiefs get aggressive a few times AND are doing the big move for a WR? In this scenario, KC obviously believes Williams is a game-changer at the NFL level and is taking a small 2022 hit to make 2023+ better. The defensive line still gets reinforced, but the reinforcements are all a shade worse than the sit-pat draft option. If you like Kingsley Enagbare or Josh PAscal more than Thomas, I get it and wouldn't quibble at one of those guys instead. Logan Hall, too. Pitre is such a screaming perfect fit for KC's D. Carter is a great physical talent you can dream about coaching up. Williams' utility is known and gives them a true RE option to pair against their higher-drafted bigger guy. Watson is a developmental corner.

I don't love it. I think Pitre makes the secondary a lot better and makes it easier to move on from Thornhill after 22. They have improved the defensive rotation, though one of the DEs would need to outperform expectations in Year 1 to get it to the same level as Scenario 1. In all, giving up the 2 extra selections in the top 4 rounds hurts the depth you can build, but I think it's more like what KC will do.

Scenario 3: Same movements as #2
1.13 | Jermaine Johnson II, DE, Florida State.
2.35 | Christian Watson, WR, North Dakota State.
2.50 | Sam Williams, DE, Ole Miss.
3.69 | Bryan Cook, S, Cincinnati.
3.85 | Martin Emerson, CB, Miss. State.
4.135 | Braxton Jones, T, Southern Utah

Scenario 3 Debrief:
This is the type of situation where I see KC paying the price to move up... if Johnson falls this far, I'd be shocked if KC isn't aggressively moving up. With this run, I take a risky but high upside WR in Watson (but you could sub in Pickens or Jahan Dotson or Tolbert or Metchie or Skyy Moore or really any of those tier 2 guys here if you prefer). The secondary reinforcements aren't flashy but are good fits.

In this one, I think the plan has to become adding either another safety or corner in free agency before the season. Ideally, it's someone who can handle the slot and let Sneed thriver on the outside. The DL gets a major boost and some potential star power in Johnson and Williams, and the OL gets another T option and potential long-term starter to develop.

Having completed the exercise and looking at the scenariors, I like the first one the most. But it really does come down to how the board breaks.

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Stryker 08:23 PM 03-04-2022
Ok, let me start again. Would JC Jackson and Ward with Ingram and Jones not be a start on rebuilding an incredible "D"? Trade down for more picks and build "D" positions with young talent? Under rookie contracts? I am not a guru like you guys by any means but, in my opinion, i think it is doable. Just trying to think it out like you guys in this pre-draft scenario.
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The Franchise 12:16 PM 03-06-2022
30.

Travon Walker
EDGE Georgia
KC
62.

Devonte Wyatt
DT Georgia
KC
94.

Christian Watson
WR North Dakota State
KC
103.

Damone Clark
LB LSU
KC
134.

Dare Rosenthal
OT Kentucky
KC
190.

Hassan Haskins
RB Michigan
KC
231.

Chris Steele
CB USC
KC
241.

Kevin Austin
WR Notre Dame
KC
249.

Allie Green IV
CB Missouri
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duncan_idaho 04:18 PM 03-06-2022
Originally Posted by Stryker:
Ok, let me start again. Would JC Jackson and Ward with Ingram and Jones not be a start on rebuilding an incredible "D"? Trade down for more picks and build "D" positions with young talent? Under rookie contracts? I am not a guru like you guys by any means but, in my opinion, i think it is doable. Just trying to think it out like you guys in this pre-draft scenario.
All the great DBs in the world don't do much for you if you aren't able to pressure the QB.

Chiefs just don't have the luxury of spending a big wad of cash at the DB spot. Not right now.
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poolboy 04:34 PM 03-06-2022
I think it comes down to either paying a quality safety or pay Ward
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poolboy 04:45 PM 03-06-2022
paying Ward, moving Snead and resigning Hughes might be the best we can do
or pay Ward and go draft a young fast safety
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kccrow 06:55 PM 03-06-2022
Originally Posted by Stryker:
Ok, let me start again. Would JC Jackson and Ward with Ingram and Jones not be a start on rebuilding an incredible "D"? Trade down for more picks and build "D" positions with young talent? Under rookie contracts? I am not a guru like you guys by any means but, in my opinion, i think it is doable. Just trying to think it out like you guys in this pre-draft scenario.
I'm not totally against it if the plan were to move Sneed to Mathieu's role. Go balls deep on the D-line in the draft and I think you're fine. It's not like this FA class doesn't pretty much suck ass for edge rushers.
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Stryker 07:54 PM 03-06-2022
Originally Posted by kccrow:
I'm not totally against it if the plan were to move Sneed to Mathieu's role. Go balls deep on the D-line in the draft and I think you're fine. It's not like this FA class doesn't pretty much suck ass for edge rushers.
I know it would me incredible but it is just a thought.
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Stryker 07:58 PM 03-06-2022
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
All the great DBs in the world don't do much for you if you aren't able to pressure the QB.

Chiefs just don't have the luxury of spending a big wad of cash at the DB spot. Not right now.
I get it. Like I said it was just a thought and yes, pressure is what we are missing. My mind was on how our secondary got toasted to the max. Look at the Bills game - LUCK. Look again at the AFCCG - we got killed.
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Tribal Warfare 11:58 PM 03-06-2022
Is anyone getting irritated by the media's lazy scouting and most project Daxton Hill as the Chiefs 1st round pick.

IMO, the 1st round selection will be a passrusher the question is will it be an EDGE or a DT player.
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DJ's left nut 12:32 PM 03-07-2022
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
30.

Travon Walker
EDGE Georgia
KC
62.

Devonte Wyatt
DT Georgia
KC
94.

Christian Watson
WR North Dakota State
KC
103.

Damone Clark
LB LSU
KC
134.

Dare Rosenthal
OT Kentucky
KC
190.

Hassan Haskins
RB Michigan
KC
231.

Chris Steele
CB USC
KC
241.

Kevin Austin
WR Notre Dame
KC
249.

Allie Green IV
CB Missouri
Maybe don't use that draft simulator anymore.

I mean lord, I know NOTHING about this draft if we end up in a situation where Walker and Wyatt are available with our first 2 picks. Austin at 249 seems late after his testing #s. Even Clark seems a round late where you got him.

That's a heck of a generous sim...
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poolboy 11:17 AM 03-08-2022
I feel a run on qbs in the first round which will help an edge maybe slide a bit
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The Franchise 12:42 PM 03-08-2022
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Maybe don't use that draft simulator anymore.

I mean lord, I know NOTHING about this draft if we end up in a situation where Walker and Wyatt are available with our first 2 picks. Austin at 249 seems late after his testing #s. Even Clark seems a round late where you got him.

That's a heck of a generous sim...
I mean that's all of them at this point. I just ran PFF and while they had a lot of the guys gone before our picks...they still had some people late who shouldn't be.
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The Franchise 12:57 PM 03-08-2022
It's not happening but I'll take it.

30.

Kansas City Chiefs
Chris Olave
WR, Ohio State
62.

Kansas City Chiefs
Lewis Cine
S, Georgia
94.

Kansas City Chiefs
Sam Williams
EDGE, Ole Miss
102.

Kansas City Chiefs
Quay Walker
LB, Georgia
133.

Kansas City Chiefs
Josh Williams - Fayetteville State
CB, NCAA
189.

Kansas City Chiefs
Pierre Strong Jr.
RB, South Dakota State
230.

Kansas City Chiefs
Amaré Barno
EDGE, Virginia Tech
240.

Kansas City Chiefs
Smoke Monday
S, Auburn
248.

Kansas City Chiefs
Zyon McCollum
CB, Sam Houston State
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ntexascardfan 09:23 PM 03-08-2022
Are these things updated post combine?
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duncan_idaho 07:28 AM 03-09-2022
Originally Posted by ntexascardfan:
Are these things updated post combine?

They are. Just takes time.

The Draft Network usually gets its list updated first. NFL Mock Draft Database is usually the slowest to respond to stock changes because it’s board is based on aggregated averages.
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