The Chargers offensive philosophy is bland and erratic. They also aren’t precise. Everett being gassed leading to the pick 6 is full proof. That’s why they don’t win.
You can have the most talented team in the world but if your coach is subpar you’re Donna struggle beating a team with a Mahomes/Reid combo. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RunKC:
The Chargers offensive philosophy is bland and erratic. They also aren’t precise. Everett being gassed leading to the pick 6 is full proof. That’s why they don’t win.
You can have the most talented team in the world but if your coach is subpar you’re Donna struggle beating a team with a Mahomes/Reid combo.
Yeah - I think it may really be that simple.
I mean...Charger is a verb around here for a reason. And it sure looks like KC has a massive trump card at HC. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
So just thinking about this a little more - it's honestly shocking that the Chargers haven't had more success against us than they have.
I mean think about it - ask yourself how you'd build a team to beat the Chiefs. Here's what I'd do (and honestly, it seems too ambitious to even pull off).
1) Big, athletic, strong armed QB. That's not Chiefs specific, it's just what you need. Chargers: Check
2) 2 aggressive pass rushing DEs who can win with speed and power. Also not specific to the Chiefs, but a little more damaging given that our strength on the OL is on the interior. Chargers: Check
3) A matched pair of complementary WRs who can operate underneath and downfield. Not exactly specific to the Chiefs but again, KC has a philosophy where they don't always invest heavily at CB and so this can be exploited a little more against them. Chargers: Check
4) An all-world Safety who can isolate and neutralize our HoF TE. VERY specific to the Chiefs and absolutely a Chargers: Check.
5) A powerful interior lineman who can help neutralize or at least modify how we use our best defensive player. Well shit...Chargers have THAT now as well. And with Corey Linsley to complement Zion, they have 2 guys who can do it which will allow them to slide protections to help no matter where Jones goes.
6) A premier pass catching HB. For years that was the way to attack us and while we have finally added enough speed to the defense to not make this quite as easy money as it used to be, it's still likely something that we'll need to resort to heavy Nickel packages to address if a team elects to make an emphasis out of it. Chargers: Check
7) A ball hawk CB who can make one of the 2-3 mistakes Mahomes will make in a given game (still far fewer than most QBs) really hurt. Well now the Chargers have that as well in JC Jackson. {Sigh}....check.
8) A strong LT to make the Chiefs play lefthanded defensively given that they simply don't have a complementary bookend pass-rusher (since Frank Clark ****ing Sucks).
I mean if you were given unlimited draft/cap resources just exactly what else could you add to the Chargers to make them a bigger handful for KC? A premier TE and maybe a true burner downfield. Oh, and a coach who isn't a goober, I suppose.
But man, when it comes to being a really REALLY tough out for Kansas City, the Chargers are absolutely built to a tee to give us fits. In a way that's almost difficult to fathom when you start to really dig into it.
It makes what the Chiefs have done against them over the last several years all the more impressive. And what happened last Thursday a little more understandable. They are a BRUTAL matchup for the Chiefs and very probably the dead last team I'd want to face in the post-season.
The problem with the Chargers is a fundamental lack of discipline that hangs over that organization. It goes back to Rivers playing days when he would lose his composure and make a stupid turnover. You watch enough of our games against them and it follows a familiar script of them making costly errors on a crucial drive. Throw in the fact that Staley is a moron who thinks he’s smarter than everyone else and it’s easy to see why they underachieve year after year. [Reply]
Man, The Williams are really good, and worthy of respect. This season is their best shot, as we're really young and early in a reboot. We need to keep snaking these wins in the first half of the season while the youngsters are learning and we'll be in good shape late in the season and for the playoffs. [Reply]
I'm not sure what the problem is, because on paper the Chargers should be even with the Bills and have similar success. They just never can meet their potential. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Razaele:
I'm not sure what the problem is, because on paper the Chargers should be even with the Bills and have similar success. They just never can meet their potential.
They've never just had a great coaching staff and lack of homefield are the issues.
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
So just thinking about this a little more - it's honestly shocking that the Chargers haven't had more success against us than they have.
I mean think about it - ask yourself how you'd build a team to beat the Chiefs. Here's what I'd do (and honestly, it seems too ambitious to even pull off).
1) Big, athletic, strong armed QB. That's not Chiefs specific, it's just what you need. Chargers: Check
2) 2 aggressive pass rushing DEs who can win with speed and power. Also not specific to the Chiefs, but a little more damaging given that our strength on the OL is on the interior. Chargers: Check
3) A matched pair of complementary WRs who can operate underneath and downfield. Not exactly specific to the Chiefs but again, KC has a philosophy where they don't always invest heavily at CB and so this can be exploited a little more against them. Chargers: Check
4) An all-world Safety who can isolate and neutralize our HoF TE. VERY specific to the Chiefs and absolutely a Chargers: Check.
5) A powerful interior lineman who can help neutralize or at least modify how we use our best defensive player. Well shit...Chargers have THAT now as well. And with Corey Linsley to complement Zion, they have 2 guys who can do it which will allow them to slide protections to help no matter where Jones goes.
6) A premier pass catching HB. For years that was the way to attack us and while we have finally added enough speed to the defense to not make this quite as easy money as it used to be, it's still likely something that we'll need to resort to heavy Nickel packages to address if a team elects to make an emphasis out of it. Chargers: Check
7) A ball hawk CB who can make one of the 2-3 mistakes Mahomes will make in a given game (still far fewer than most QBs) really hurt. Well now the Chargers have that as well in JC Jackson. {Sigh}....check.
8) A strong LT to make the Chiefs play lefthanded defensively given that they simply don't have a complementary bookend pass-rusher (since Frank Clark ****ing Sucks).
I mean if you were given unlimited draft/cap resources just exactly what else could you add to the Chargers to make them a bigger handful for KC? A premier TE and maybe a true burner downfield. Oh, and a coach who isn't a goober, I suppose.
But man, when it comes to being a really REALLY tough out for Kansas City, the Chargers are absolutely built to a tee to give us fits. In a way that's almost difficult to fathom when you start to really dig into it.
It makes what the Chiefs have done against them over the last several years all the more impressive. And what happened last Thursday a little more understandable. They are a BRUTAL matchup for the Chiefs and very probably the dead last team I'd want to face in the post-season.
This is looking way ahead...but damn getting the 1 seed and potentially avoiding having to beat them AND the Bills seems like an ideal situation. If you can grab that bye and let them cannibalize each other, that seems ideal.
I figure that south winner ends up the 4 and the north the 3. So likely the non winner of the AFCW is gonna get the 4 seed then probably have to go to what....the #1? Fuck this new format screws me all up.
I guess it depends what happens in the other game, but once you get past the 5th seed in the AFC this year do you see a WC team that can go on the road and beat the 3 seed or the 2 seed? [Reply]
Originally Posted by O.city:
I guess it depends what happens in the other game, but once you get past the 5th seed in the AFC this year do you see a WC team that can go on the road and beat the 3 seed or the 2 seed?
Did you see us losing to the Bengals?
There's a bizarre loss every year and the Chargers gacking the 1st round could easily be one of them. [Reply]