Originally Posted by Dull Tools:
This is a better OL class so probably 4th round.
I’m talking about him essentially being a rookie that’s completely healthy and having elite tools both physical and mental for the position. Not if he was coming off a hip surgery and going into the draft still rehabbing. [Reply]
Originally Posted by BossChief:
I’m talking about him essentially being a rookie that’s completely healthy and having elite tools both physical and mental for the position. Not if he was coming off a hip surgery and going into the draft still rehabbing.
Seems to me that he is similar to Walker Little. Who I hope we end up getting.
In terms of traits he looks the most similar to Sam Cosmi. So late first round or early second. [Reply]
I wonder where he would fall in this draft...he didn’t give up a sack in his last 2 years.
I think without the injury, Niang might have been a 1st rounder last year, in a class that was arguably much better at the top than this one.
I'd definitely put him in the 1st round this year - the more I analyze this class, the more I'm convinced it's super deep but there isn't really blue chip quality at the top. Lots of question marks. [Reply]
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
I think without the injury, Niang might have been a 1st rounder last year, in a class that was arguably much better at the top than this one.
I'd definitely put him in the 1st round this year - the more I analyze this class, the more I'm convinced it's super deep but there isn't really blue chip quality at the top. Lots of question marks.
I'm convinced that Sewell and Darrisaw are blue-chip LTs.
Slater is kind of unknown on if he'll anchor well enough at LT but he probably gets a shot, but he's definitely a blue-chip guard prospect. The same goes for Vera-Tucker with being a blue-chipper at guard.
Dickerson is definitely a blue-chip guy at center.
Those are the only 5 I can say I'm confident in, and obviously only 2 as LTs. [Reply]
Originally Posted by kccrow:
I'm convinced that Sewell and Darrisaw are blue-chip LTs.
Slater is kind of unknown on if he'll anchor well enough at LT but he probably gets a shot, but he's definitely a blue-chip guard prospect. The same goes for Vera-Tucker with being a blue-chipper at guard.
Dickerson is definitely a blue-chip guy at center.
Those are the only 5 I can say I'm confident in, and obviously only 2 as LTs.
Somebody listened to the Simms podcast.... [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chief Northman:
Somebody listened to the Simms podcast....
I did. I don't think Simms has enough lineman graded in the 1st though and I absolutely think Slater gets his shot at LT first whereas Simms doesn't.
Slater, if he can add some weight, had the potential to be Jason Peters.
I think Sam Cosmi is an absolute lock in the 1st and I think he goes before 25.
I think Spencer Brown is definitely a fringe 1 guy, whether a team looks at him as a LT or a RT.
Cosmi and Brown have insane athletic profiles and good tape as pass blockers. Teams will gamble on those traits more often than not and there are a lot of teams that need tackles.
This regardless of whether or not I think they are a top 32 player. Positional need and traits trump many of things. [Reply]
Originally Posted by kccrow:
I'm convinced that Sewell and Darrisaw are blue-chip LTs.
Slater is kind of unknown on if he'll anchor well enough at LT but he probably gets a shot, but he's definitely a blue-chip guard prospect. The same goes for Vera-Tucker with being a blue-chipper at guard.
Dickerson is definitely a blue-chip guy at center.
Those are the only 5 I can say I'm confident in, and obviously only 2 as LTs.
Yep.
Darrisaw is right there on the line. He just needs a little development. Obviously, Sewell is the best prospect.
Like you said, Slater seems to be a lock to play LT but will likely be his best further inside.
Dickerson would definitely be a top center prospect in other years, sans the injury history. It's really unfortunate because it's such a huge red flag for a guy that would likely be one of the best center prospects in recent history.
So yeah, there's like 2 really great LT prospects in this draft. [Reply]
The only players I think it is worth us take in the first round at tackle are Darrisaw, Sewell, Jenkins and Cosmi.
For anyone else I hope we trade back to 40ish and take Little/Eichenberg/Leatherwood. Or trade up to 40 and take them and take a Phillips/Oweh/Farley if they drop there. [Reply]
Spencer Brown has been working with Joe Staley... not a bad dude to work with...
My dude Spencer Brown had a day today at UNI Pro Day!! Ran a 4.88 40 at 6’8 310 Crazy agility numbers (4.34 SS and 6.96 3 cone)and put up 29 reps of 225 with almost 35 inch arms. He has gotten better every day of working together and can’t wait to see what he does in the league.
According to Arrowhead Pride's Kent Swanson, the average arm length of a tackle for head coach Andy Reid is 34 1/4 inches. When comparing that to the top 20 tackles in this year's draft, only six meet or exceed that measurement. Arm length won't make or break a prospect, though, Mora said
Player Arm Length (inches)
Trent Williams 34.25
David Bakhtiari 34
Garett Bolles 34
DJ Humphries 33.63
Duane Brown 34.25
Andrew Whitworth 35
Terron Armstead 34.08
Tristan Wirfs 34
Michael Onwenu 34.34
Jack Conklin 35
Isaiah Wynn 33.38
Taylor Decker 33.75
Taylor Moton 34.13
Rob Havenstein 33.75
Dion Dawkins 35
Eric Fisher 34.5
Braden Smith 32.25
I went back and watched all the 1 on 1 reps from the Sr. Bowl.
-Alex Leatherwood: pass. Guy can’t handle speed and doesn’t finish.
-Spencer Brown: Scrappy, but some rushers can get under his pads because he is so tall, and he loses leverage easily. Torques defenders too readily and gets off balance.
-D’Ante Smith: Can get a bit overwhelmed with speed to power, but he mirrors well and fights to the whistle.
-Dillon Radunz: Easily the best performer - patient in his sets, his footwork is great, he absorbs bull rushes adequately and has heavy hands with his punch. Handled power and speed effectively.
Other quick observations:
- Royce Newman and David Moore were standouts on the interior. Moore absolutely stonewalled guys and made Basham Jr. look silly - by all accounts, Basham Jr. dominated the majority of his reps, but Moore just buried him. Newman handled both speed and power well. Meinerz was also great, but he often gives up initial depth only to re-anchor and eventually win. He needs to work on getting into his sets quicker and cleaner.
Radunz is my guy - if the Chiefs take him at 31 or later I feel he would be a great fit. His run game prowess was always known, but he has textbook patience and mirroring abilities in pass pro. Measurables be damned - some have concerns with his arm length and weight - this kid will have a long pro career. [Reply]