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The Lounge>Bengals hiring Zac Taylor to be HC; Bienemy remains in KC
pugsnotdrugs19 06:31 PM 01-10-2019
https://twitter.com/adamschefter/sta...903671809?s=21

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O.city 09:24 AM 01-11-2019
Originally Posted by Superturtle:
Why? Wilks ****ing cratered the Arizona defense. Chiefs gave up 132 rushing yards per game and 19 TDs. Cardinals gave up 154 rushing yards per game and 25 TDs. The year prior they gave up 89 rushing yards per game and 12 TDs. Wilks changed them from a 3-4 to 4-3. Do not want him anywhere near this team if he is going to be doing shit like that.
Everyone wants the chiefs to change schemes.

I donít really fault Wilks for the hc year. Heís just not a head coach

Heís been a good dc
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staylor26 09:25 AM 01-11-2019
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501:
The job of the head coach is to manage a team. It isn't to call plays. There's a reason toub is often in hc conversations. He can hire a good qbs coach or oc. Could easily be claimed that an experienced RBs coach knows a ton about blocking schemes and would put together a tough minded team. If you're Seattle, Dallas, Baltimore, etc... Why wouldn't that be a great hire?
I honestly have no idea if/what you’re trying to dispute here.

I clearly said I’m not saying that’s the only way to go, just simply pointing out the trend.
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Superturtle 09:25 AM 01-11-2019
Originally Posted by O.city:
Didn’t bienemy also have some sexual assault issues years ago?

That could be a sticking point
No. More of being a goddamn fool while driving and some Colorado players being accused of rape while he was the head coach.
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Hoopsdoc 09:26 AM 01-11-2019
Originally Posted by tk13:
In related news, the Vikings have decided to fire their coach and have hired Sean McVay's barber as head coach.
I thought for sure Mcvays Uber driver had it locked up.
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O.city 09:27 AM 01-11-2019
Originally Posted by Superturtle:
No. More of being a goddamn fool while driving and some Colorado players being accused of rape while he was the head coach.
I just heard it brought up on a podcast. Hadnít really heard much of it elsewhere
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Superturtle 09:28 AM 01-11-2019
Originally Posted by O.city:
Everyone wants the chiefs to change schemes.

I donít really fault Wilks for the hc year. Heís just not a head coach

Heís been a good dc
Agree to disagree. If he's dumb enough to crater his defense to the point they're allowing damn near double in both yards and TDs against the run, he shouldn't be coming here. That's the absolute last thing we need.
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chiefzilla1501 09:28 AM 01-11-2019
Originally Posted by staylor26:
Everybody wants a young offensive coach that can develop a young QB. Thatís why those guys got their jobs, to develop QBís. Iím not saying itís smart or stupid, Iím simply pointing out what I thought was an obvious trend and providing a reasonable explanation why Bieniemy didnít get a job just yet.

I mean the Bengals picked a QB coach over him. Is it not ****ing obvious they are following this trend?
I think it's a copycat league. That's for sure. The front office fired a head coach, so there's not exactly a vote of confidence they can be trusted to hire a good replacement. I'm glad the Chiefs have an offense guru. But if the Bengals don't draft an elite qb and if Rosen and darnold don't become elite qbs, I wonder how many will be back to the drawing board 3 years from now. Qbs coaches may be hot right now. But I wonder if that's become too watered down of late.
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Superturtle 09:29 AM 01-11-2019
Originally Posted by O.city:
I just heard it brought up on a podcast. Hadn’t really heard much of it elsewhere
I'd never heard of it either so I looked it up. This was the first result.

https://www.cincyjungle.com/2019/1/6...joseph-broncos

Man, Bieniemy had some rough younger years :-)
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Hoover 09:29 AM 01-11-2019
The best thing that could happen to Bieniemy is for him to have another year running this offense. There are 5-8 coaching changes a year, I don't have any doubt he will get his shot. And while it is life changing money, if it were me, I'd want to be prepared when I got my shot.

One of the most impressive things I noticed with Reid when the Chiefs hired him, was how large his staff was, and that he brought in an entire crew, from the field and turf guys to the equipment managers. Reid is also always hiring these off the radar guys who over years he turns into coaches. Guys like Mike Kafka, Deland McCullough, David Girardi, and Joe Bleymaier. Reid has a system in place as far as offensive coaches are concerned.
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chiefzilla1501 09:30 AM 01-11-2019
Originally Posted by O.city:
Didnít bienemy also have some sexual assault issues years ago?

That could be a sticking point
I also wonder if that was an issue. I saw that swirling on Twitter when he was being considered.
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chiefzilla1501 09:33 AM 01-11-2019
Although I'm glad we keep bieniemy I was still kind of holding out hope we could Backfill him with Kafka who I think would do fine. And then put in a very experienced qb handler like van pelt at qbs coach.
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staylor26 09:39 AM 01-11-2019
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501:
I think it's a copycat league. That's for sure. The front office fired a head coach, so there's not exactly a vote of confidence they can be trusted to hire a good replacement. I'm glad the Chiefs have an offense guru. But if the Bengals don't draft an elite qb and if Rosen and darnold don't become elite qbs, I wonder how many will be back to the drawing board 3 years from now. Qbs coaches may be hot right now. But I wonder if that's become too watered down of late.
The fact that itís a trend and teams are having success doing it is only making things worse.

For one, you have all these highly paid QBís missing out on the playoffs, so teams want to try and win with talented young QBís on rookie deals. Itís the best way to do it in todayís NFL.

Then, if you have a defensive minded HC and your QB developer is an OC or QB coach, you have to worry about losing them every single year. It makes more sense for your HC to be that guy, so thatís why I get it. Itís easier to find DCís year to year.
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O.city 09:43 AM 01-11-2019
Originally Posted by Superturtle:
Agree to disagree. If he's dumb enough to crater his defense to the point they're allowing damn near double in both yards and TDs against the run, he shouldn't be coming here. That's the absolute last thing we need.
Iím not sure if that was actually his decision to change all that up though.
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HemiEd 09:45 AM 01-11-2019
Originally Posted by Superturtle:
Man, Bieniemy had some rough younger years :-)
I didn't see anything there that was out of the ordinary. :-)

Few speeding tickets and players having issues when he was a coach.
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Titty Meat 09:52 AM 01-11-2019
Yeah I would have hired Taylor over him too
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