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The Lounge>***Official "Are NFL game outcomes influenced by outsiders?" Discussion Thread***
Frazod 07:51 PM 12-13-2012
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I don't remember if this was ever posted here - if it was, I don't remember it.

Very long, informative, and depressing.

http://spaces.covers.com/blog/Maximu...or-Profit.html

MaximumWins's Blog
Reasons Why The NFL Is Fixed For Profit
Spoiler!

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CoMoChief 10:44 PM 12-13-2012
Do I think some games have been fixed? Of course. It's documented that it HAS happened before. Now how much does it happen? Probably a lot more back in the 60's-70's than now because of how connected we are with social media, TV, internet, etc. and everything is monitored.
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CoMoChief 10:46 PM 12-13-2012
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
There's a bunch of contradictions in here.

Like when he says that the NFL doesn't need ticket sales but then goes on to say the 49ers had a "fixed" 13-3 season in order to get their new stadium, from ticket sales.
True but these owners don't pay for the stadiums that are built....tax payers do.
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Rugby Thompson 10:50 PM 12-13-2012
I've been saying this forever, there's a huge conspiracy within the NFL. It's known that these games are fixed and rigged and that certain franchises are cursed like the chiefs. I could go on and on but its the entertainment business, I remember even hearing that some high up mafia guy in KC got caught with 400 grand in cash and he had Len Dawson's phone number. I know that was then but the last superbowls have been really rigged and a lot of these players have to take serious oaths, a lot of these owners and people working behind the scene are just so evil and corrupt.
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htismaqe 10:55 PM 12-13-2012
Originally Posted by CoMoChief:
True but these owners don't pay for the stadiums that are built....tax payers do.
Which means that ticket sales are even MORE irrelevant when it comes to funding a stadium.

Some of his arguments just don't hold much water.
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Rugby Thompson 10:57 PM 12-13-2012
All the patriot superbowls were rigged.
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jaa1025 10:57 PM 12-13-2012
I fully expect this site to be shut down now by NFL security and nobody to ever hear from the OP again.
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CoMoChief 10:58 PM 12-13-2012
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
Which means that ticket sales are even MORE irrelevant when it comes to funding a stadium.

Some of his arguments just don't hold much water.
And isn't there a KCStar article where there is fine print where the Chiefs don't pay for stadium maintenance etc, the fees are hidden in county taxes or some shit.
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htismaqe 11:06 PM 12-13-2012
Here is another thought...

If anybody reading this truly believes the NFL is completely fake, ala the WWE, post here and explain how and why you are still a fan.

I see no reason to be interested at all if you think it's rigged because there's only 2 possible outcomes - your team will either never win because it isn't one of the "chosen" franchises or when they do win one it will be meaningless because they didn't earn it.

There's absolutely NOTHING to root for in that scenario.
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RealSNR 11:08 PM 12-13-2012
I'd like to meet the asshole who fixes these games. The Chiefs are getting fucked in this bullshit narrative they're pushing through.
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niblet 11:10 PM 12-13-2012
It simply isn't feasible to rig something as massive as the NFL. The lid would have been blown off a long, long time ago.

And you can't just take a few obvious bad calls and construe them in whatever way you choose to use as evidence that the NFL is fixed. It doesn't work that way.
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Nzoner 11:29 PM 12-13-2012
Originally Posted by niblet:
It simply isn't feasible to rig something as massive as the NFL. The lid would have been blown off a long, long time ago.

And you can't just take a few obvious bad calls and construe them in whatever way you choose to use as evidence that the NFL is fixed. It doesn't work that way.
The writer gives numerous sources for you to read more in depth on the subject.I don't think all the games are rigged but after reading the book Interference I was a whole lot more convinced it goes on.

Here's an interview with the author from '89


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Frazod 11:33 PM 12-13-2012
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
Here is another thought...

If anybody reading this truly believes the NFL is completely fake, ala the WWE, post here and explain how and why you are still a fan.

I see no reason to be interested at all if you think it's rigged because there's only 2 possible outcomes - your team will either never win because it isn't one of the "chosen" franchises or when they do win one it will be meaningless because they didn't earn it.

There's absolutely NOTHING to root for in that scenario.
Well, I'm not much of one anymore.

All my Chiefs stuff is in a box in the basement. I attended one game this year, played locally between two teams I don't care about, exclusively because a Bears fan friend was coming in from out of town. And I got the tickets free. The tickets to the last game I saw were free, too. I haven't bought any official NFL merchandise in years, and now I'm not even buying the knockoff crap on eBay.

Following this team has been a major part of my life for decades - that won't dry up and blow away overnight. At this point, I don't watch a fraction of the games that I used to, and when I do, I'm generally not paying much attention to them.

At this point, I don't believe the Chiefs will ever win another Super Bowl UNLESS they manage to land somebody who turns into a bankable star that will sell merchandise outside our tiny fanbase. There's just no money in it for the league.

This is a multi-billion dollar industry. Name ONE multi-billion dollar industry that would put sportsmanship and fair play above profits.
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ChiefsCountry 11:34 PM 12-13-2012
Somebody would have squealed along time ago if it was a legit rigging going on. Especially during the time when NBC or CBS didn't have the games on their stations. Fist of all somebody would have gotten screwed out of money to blow the whistle.

Though we do know the mob is heavily involved in games, or they used to at least. The Pendergraf machine is why Fred Abranas is missing an eye. He dropped a touchdown that would have won a game and the mob took it out on him.
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Hootie 11:40 PM 12-13-2012
It just doesn't make any sense...

Take last year's Super Bowl...they scripted the Welker drop (and he'll forever stay quite about it?) and that Manning to Manningham throw?

OK
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Nzoner 11:45 PM 12-13-2012
Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks:
It just doesn't make any sense...

Take last year's Super Bowl...they scripted the Welker drop (and he'll forever stay quite about it?) and that Manning to Manningham throw?

OK
For the most part it's not about picking a winner and loser,and no way in hell do I believe an entire game is scripted.I do believe that shit goes on constantly though when it comes to spreads and over/unders.
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