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The Lounge>***Official "Are NFL game outcomes influenced by outsiders?" Discussion Thread***
Frazod 07:51 PM 12-13-2012
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I don't remember if this was ever posted here - if it was, I don't remember it.

Very long, informative, and depressing.

http://spaces.covers.com/blog/Maximu...or-Profit.html

MaximumWins's Blog
Reasons Why The NFL Is Fixed For Profit
Spoiler!

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notorious 08:54 PM 12-13-2012
Dallas would have more titles if the NFL wanted to maximize profits.

I do agree that there are a lot of "convienient" calls for the chosen teams.
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DTLB58 09:02 PM 12-13-2012
Look, I'm NOT saying some of this can't be true. I've been in front of a TV watching football EVERY Sunday for literally 40 seasons. And I've seen some crazy shit and a lot of it as of late, when we have the most technology at our hands to correct some of the crap that goes on.

Which leads to my point, IF this is true, there is nothing anybody is going to be able to do about it.

It's like my dad always said, money and sex makes the world go round. And in this case, it's the money. And hell, whose to say ol' Rog ain't getting a BJ or two on the side for something. :-)
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cdcox 09:03 PM 12-13-2012
Originally Posted by :
OK, so if you are ready to take the Red Pill, let's see how deep the rabbit hole goes...
Wow, I can almost fit my whole hand in there!
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Garcia Bronco 09:04 PM 12-13-2012
Originally Posted by PGM:
'97 Chiefs-Broncos agrees. One of the most ridiculously called games in league history.
I know. I can't believe they tried to keep you guys in the game.
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DTLB58 09:04 PM 12-13-2012
Originally Posted by notorious:
Dallas would have more titles if the NFL wanted to maximize profits.

I do agree that there are a lot of "convienient" calls for the chosen teams.
Yea, they waited to pull that ever "popular" Tuck rule out at a grand time didn't they. :-)
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mr. tegu 09:08 PM 12-13-2012
This season when the public is 70% or more in one direction, the public has won 44 times and lost 38 times. Not exactly doing a good job of fixing are they.
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notorious 09:27 PM 12-13-2012
Originally Posted by DTLB58:
Yea, they waited to pull that ever "popular" Tuck rule out at a grand time didn't they. :-)
No kidding.

They basically had to call it the same for a few seasons after that just to try and make it look legit.


If that happened to the Chiefs, I would have quit the NFL instantly. There was no way that call was legit.
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DRU 09:30 PM 12-13-2012
Originally Posted by Bugeater:
Damn, I tried to finish this but it is so horribly written I can't take the guy seriously. And he used bleacherreport.com for a source...lol.
Same here. The whole way through I'm just thinking, wow, this guy doesn't write very well at all. It wasn't an article about writing, though, so I was trying to give it a chance.

Then I come across this statement...

Originally Posted by :
Afran is correct in his judgement based on the interpretation of game fixing laws. A team can't fix their own games for gambling purposes, nor can they fix an intellectual contest (a ruling based n the Quiz Show scandal of the 1950s) But judges ruled that fixing a game for entertainment purposes was completely LEGAL NFL Attorney Shephard Goldfein actually argued in court supporting this argument saying "fans would likely still buy tickets even if they knew teams were stealing signals" In other word, the NFL knows you will still pay to see football even if you knew it was fake because you love football.
He takes the statement, "fans would likely still buy tickets even if they knew teams were stealing signals" to mean that even though we know it's fake we'd still watch.

What does stealing signals have to do with being fake? If it were fake they wouldn't have to steal signals, for one, and the two don't have anything to do with each other in the first place. Stealing signals is something people do in all sports to try and get a competitive advantage over the other. He's saying that means it's fake..?? Doesn't make sense.

He keeps comparing it to the WWE, too. They don't have to steal signals from each other in the WWE because the entire thing is scripted...UNLIKE the NFL. You cant' script this game. The best of the best drop the ball too often to ever stick to a script.

Not going to waste my time reading this entire thing when it's not written well and doesn't make sense.
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notorious 09:32 PM 12-13-2012
Bet against the masses and win millions.
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DTLB58 09:33 PM 12-13-2012
Originally Posted by notorious:
Dallas would have more titles if the NFL wanted to maximize profits.

I do agree that there are a lot of "convienient" calls for the chosen teams.
And come to think of it, IF they had so much control......How the heck has an NFL team stayed out of LA for so long? Wouldn't that have helped their cause ever so much?
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DTLB58 09:34 PM 12-13-2012
Originally Posted by notorious:
Bet against the masses and win millions.
Only way to go.....If I were a betting man.
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mr. tegu 09:36 PM 12-13-2012
Originally Posted by notorious:
Bet against the masses and win millions.
See post 21.
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DTLB58 09:37 PM 12-13-2012
I didn't read enough to see, did he say what grade he got on his paper he wrote for this?
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Frazod 09:38 PM 12-13-2012
Originally Posted by Bugeater:
Damn, I tried to finish this but it is so horribly written I can't take the guy seriously. And he used bleacherreport.com for a source...lol.
Well, who do you think is going to write something like this? Peter King? Prisco? I'm sure they're all under orders to maintain the illusion.

One thing the guy doesn't mention and probably should is the advent of HDTV. I mean, seriously, unless you're retarded, the fixing is right there in glorious 1080p crystal clarity on your big ass TV, to be marveled at and watched over and over again by use of your DVR. And it's not like they really try that hard to hide it - I mean, how can they?

When it comes to HDTV, the NFL is sort of like porn. You see things you probably shouldn't, and somebody's getting fucked.
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notorious 09:39 PM 12-13-2012
Originally Posted by mr. tegu:
See post 21.
Sarcasmic.
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