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The Lounge>Andy Reid is a terrible head football coach
rabblerouser 09:43 AM 09-18-2015
Seriously.

This guy is terrible at game management...which is really the #1 job of a head coach, above and beyond all the other things some coaches do and others don't, they ALL have one thing in common : game management.

People make the excuse, "well, that's who he is. He was like that in Philly. Good Andy/Bad Andy."

Well, I know if any one of us ****'s up constantly, and don't learn and don't change the stupid tendecies, then we don't have a job anymore.

His failure to adapt his "strategy" to something more than a 9 year old's Madden technique is more than maddening - it's flat out ****ing unacceptable.

If I was Clark Hunt, and I watched that embarrassing shitshow that went out over national TV last night, Reid's ass is in my office 1st thing this morning and I might fire him. Seriously. That was horrific.

I find it unfathomable that a coach of some 20+ years NFL experience (16 or 17 as HC) is so blitheringly ignorant of basic situational football.
1st qtr, 1st and goal from the 2. RUN THE BALL 4 STRAIGHT TIMES IF YOU HAVE TO. The all time leader in NFL rushing average is in the backfield...or is Reid thinking about Burnt ends??

1st and goal with 90 sec at the end of the half - you lead 14-7, their offense just got some momentum, so...END THE HALF with 3 kneel downs and go in the locker room leading by 7. 14, because it's 21-7 if you run with Jamal at goal to go on the 1st series.

Take the guy getting toasted out of the game - Jemel Phlegming SUCKS. maybe Reid started Sanders and Manning in his fantasy team??


After Knile Davis goes UNTOUCHED for an 8 yd TD scamper in the 4th, you keep feeding those fresh legs the ball, and never relinquish the lead.

****, that sequence at the end of the 1st half was ABYSMAL. Reid and his staff should be FIRED for gross incompetence. Before that mini-shitshow, Denver didn't even think they could play football anymore, and 5head looked like he was ready to lay down and die.

This is ALL on the coaching staff. They threw this game.*

Andy Reid should be held accountable.

Instead...he gets a paycheck and a mixed plate.

How is this guy a head coach??

DAMN NEAR ANYONE ON CP COULD HAVE CALLED A BETTER GAME THAN ANDY FAT SHITSHOW REID LAST NIGHT...

He wins most of the games he should, based on talent alone...

How does he keep jobs?? How is Clark not roasting his ass right ****ing now!!!???

What will it take, blowing a 50 point lead in the playoffs???

(Don't know if it was intentional or just a byproduct of Reid's now-obvious incompetence...but make no mistake - this game was ours and Reid GAVE IT AWAY. INEXCUSABLE.)

But why should Reid care??

He's gonna be eating KC BBQ for the next 5-6 years.


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ChiTown 11:12 AM 09-18-2015
Originally Posted by rabblerouser:
I know.

Most Hulkamamiacs I knew growing up would rather light themselves on fire and jump out a window than admit that pro wrestling is rigged, too...

So, since your cognitive dissonance has kicked in and you can't fathom that Reid would EVER throw a game on purpose...

That leaves us with :

He's a terrible coach, ownership is cool with that, and not only will we never win a SB with Andy Reid as HC, but we most likely will never win a SB while the Hunts own this team.

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rabblerouser 11:27 AM 09-18-2015
Originally Posted by ChiTown:
In psychology, "cognitive dissonance" is the mental stress -or discomfort - experienced by an individual who holds two or more contradictory beliefs, ideas, or values at the same time, or is confronted by new information that conflicts with existing beliefs, ideas, or values.

In this scenario, the idea or belief that football isn't manipulated by refs and coaches to achieve a desired outcome for profit (be it commercials, Vegas/gambling, playoff seeding, etc) is conflicted by the evidence presented to you; your cognitive dissonance is created when you try to rationalize why Andy Reid is just a good coach who makes bad decisions or some such bullshit.

I'm telling you, factually, that in order to actually be a good coach, one consistently must put their team in positions to win.

Andy Reid does not.

LOGICALLY, this makes Andy Reid a bad coach, by definition.

Now, here we are, still engaging in cognitive dissonance, because you want to believe Andy is a good coach...despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary. It causes discomfort for you.

And you don't want believe the NFL is rigged, but that's a paradox in this situation , because if it's NOT rigged, that means Andy Reid IS not a good coach, and that ownership is not only okay with it, they're rolling in dough hand over fist.

Which logically leads us to conclude that Andy, Alex, Chunt, and the entire shitshow are here to stay...lather, rinse, repeat.

And who wants to believe that??

It's very discomforting.

So, a lot of folks use their cognitive dissonance to not deal with the harsh, ugly reality of football in Kansas City.

I think I know EXACTLY what it means, thanks.

That was on the house, btw.

:-)

You're welcome.
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ChiTown 11:31 AM 09-18-2015
Originally Posted by rabblerouser:
In psychology, "cognitive dissonance" is the mental stress -or discomfort - experienced by an individual who holds two or more contradictory beliefs, ideas, or values at the same time, or is confronted by new information that conflicts with existing beliefs, ideas, or values.

In this scenario, the idea or belief that football isn't manipulated by refs and coaches to achieve a desired outcome for profit (be it commercials, Vegas/gambling, playoff seeding, etc) is conflicted by the evidence presented to you; your cognitive dissonance is created when you try to rationalize why Andy Reid is just a good coach who makes bad decisions or some such bullshit.

I'm telling you, factually, that in order to actually be a good coach, one consistently must put their team in positions to win.

Andy Reid does not.

LOGICALLY, this makes Andy Reid a bad coach, by definition.

Now, here we are, still engaging in cognitive dissonance, because you want to believe Andy is a good coach...despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary. It causes discomfort for you.

And you don't want believe the NFL is rigged, but that's a paradox in this situation , because if it's NOT rigged, that means Andy Reid IS not a good coach, and that ownership is not only okay with it, they're rolling in dough hand over fist.

Which logically leads us to conclude that Andy, Alex, Chunt, and the entire shitshow are here to stay...lather, rinse, repeat.

And who wants to believe that??

It's very discomforting.

So, a lot of folks use their cognitive dissonance to not deal with the harsh, ugly reality of football in Kansas City.

I think I know EXACTLY what it means, thanks.

:-)

You're welcome.
Your leap in logic is quite fascinating
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jonzie04 11:34 AM 09-18-2015
Lol, you are something else Rabble with this HOW DOES HE STILL HAVE A JOB?!? HERP A DERP. Well for starters his teams are in the playoff hunt nearly every year....

And then his win percentage is only behind Belichick, Mccarthy, Harbaugh, Tomlin, and Paytons.

Andy Reid will always have a HC job in the NFL for however long he wants...
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rabblerouser 11:37 AM 09-18-2015
Originally Posted by jonzie04:
Lol, you are something else Rabble with this HOW DOES HE STILL HAVE A JOB?!? HERP A DERP. Well for starters his teams are in the playoff hunt nearly every year...
Unless you're Jacksonville or the Raiders, EVERY TEAM is in the playoff hunt every year, you ****ing DOLT.

It's called 'parity', and if you've been watching the same league I have for the past 20 years, you know all about it, and you feel like a dipshit right about now.
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Pablo 11:37 AM 09-18-2015
Andy is a winning football coach. With glaring flaws. But he still wins more games than he loses and that will always be enough to appease the Clark Hunt's of the world; as well as most every fan base out there.

Terrible coach? No. Horrid decision maker in game? Oh yeah.
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rabblerouser 11:38 AM 09-18-2015
Originally Posted by ChiTown:
Your leap in logic is quite fascinating
Good non-committal retort.
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rabblerouser 11:39 AM 09-18-2015
Originally Posted by Pablo:
Terrible coach? No. Horrid decision maker in game? Oh yeah.
:-)

Good coaches don't make horrible decisions at the worst possible time in the biggest games.

Constantly.

Do you people realize that words have meanings??
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Pablo 11:42 AM 09-18-2015
You're the 'rigged' guy. Don't expect anyone to take anything you have to say about football seriously on this board ever again.
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rabblerouser 11:42 AM 09-18-2015
Originally Posted by ChiTown:
Your leap in logic is quite fascinating
Fuck, at least I understand that 'good coaches' and 'bad decisions' don't correlate.
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rabblerouser 11:47 AM 09-18-2015
Originally Posted by Pablo:
You're the 'rigged' guy. Don't expect anyone to take anything you have to say about football seriously on this board ever again.
Hey, I'm not the only who isn't so ****ing blinded by the spectacle that I can't see the man behind the curtain.

I'm just the most visible, and most outspoken...

The one most unwilling to have the suspension of disbelief it takes to even really enjoy football for what it is anymore.

But what I've posted in this thread is all 100% fact - no outrageous claims, no conjecture, no conspiracy theory.

I did ask some questions that the all knowing CP doesn't seem to have any answers for, just mockery.

Which in the end, lends credence to my position anyway.

So put me on ignore, and have a good day.
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RunKC 11:49 AM 09-18-2015
Surprised people aren't talking about Dave Toub. He was horrific last night.

Several penalties on ST's, a near blocked punt and horrible assignments on punt returns.
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rabblerouser 11:51 AM 09-18-2015
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Surprised people aren't talking about Dave Toub. He was horrific last night.

Several penalties on ST's, a near blocked punt and horrible assignments on punt returns.
gblow said it best in the Top 10 thread :

"Any Chiefs coach who draws a paycheck this week is stealing"
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Titty Meat 11:53 AM 09-18-2015
Andy Reid is a terrible parent too
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dirk digler 11:54 AM 09-18-2015
Originally Posted by rabblerouser:

I'm telling you, factually, that in order to actually be a good coach, one consistently must put their team in positions to win.
This is where you fail. Andy Reid currently is the 4th winningest active coach in the NFL and he has a .587 winning %. Obviously he is putting his teams in positions to win with that kind of record like him or not.
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