It's very simple. There will be a mass shooting event sooner than later.
It will be followed by a massive leak wherein everyone who can be traced to have owned a firearm in any capacity will be made public.
This mass shooting event will be blamed on the "alt right."
Thus the connotation will be made between gun ownership and "white nationalism / supremacy" where it is assumed if you're in one category you are, by definition, in the other. If you don't give up your guns then logically you are just like the terrorists who invaded the Capitol.
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
Inarticulate at least is accurate. Stupid bastard can't spell 'cat' apparently.
:-)
Where on earth do you get the impression that he's talking about 50/100 rd drums? Are those widespread or even terribly popular? how many non-gun owners even know that they exist? No, he's talking about standard cap. 30-rd mags. Just like every gun control advocate for the last 17 years. Stop lying.
I went with 50/100 drums and likely the 30 rd pistol mags because that is what I remember there actually being some degree of political support for after Va Tech and Las Vegas shootings.
ARs have 20/30 round mags standard, they aren’t going there. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
You're a lawyer. Look it up. Here, I'll even give you the name: Assault Weapons Ban-2019 (S.66).
You'll note that a 10-rd magazine restriction is part of the core of regulations proposed.
A fantasy bill submitted by left wing members during a session they had no possibility of getting it to the floor is very different from a bill backed by moderates and the president that could pass both chambers when they are in control.
If you need an example of how that works you might refer to the 2017 ACA repeal. [Reply]
Originally Posted by banyon:
I went with 50/100 drums and likely the 30 rd pistol mags because that is what I remember there actually being some degree of political support for after Va Tech and Las Vegas shootings.
ARs have 20/30 round mags standard, they aren’t going there.
They already have tried to go there (S66), counselor.
Originally Posted by banyon:
A fantasy bill submitted by left wing members during a session they had no possibility of getting it to the floor is very different from a bill backed by moderates and the president that could pass both chambers when they are in control.
If you need an example of how that works you might refer to the 2017 ACA repeal.
Biden has already expressed support for a AWB bill based on S66. What do you think that 'inarticulate' mumbling about "multiple round magazines" was about in the video? 31- rd magazines? [Reply]
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
Biden has already expressed support for a AWB bill based on S66. What do you think that 'inarticulate' mumbling about "multiple round magazines" was about in the video? 31- rd magazines?
I already said earlier in this thread that they could move for a 1993 style AW ban with grandfather clause. I don’t favor that but I doubt it would pass. But it’s certainly a lot more likely than a ban on all semiautos that was discussed earlier in the thread. Quit trying to move the goalposts.
Yes I found the word “multiple” inarticulate because it’s vague. [Reply]
Originally Posted by banyon:
Again they don’t have the support. Refer to my earlier post on the filibuster.
So, your argument is that they're just going to quit trying? After the POTUS himself has already expressed support for a new AWB? As has his VP? And his House Speaker? Are those the "extremists" you're referring to?
Counselor, you've been exposed. Either as a liar or an abject idiot.
I would say I rest my case, but the fact is I won it outright. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
So, your argument is that they're just going to quit trying? After the POTUS himself has already expressed support for a new AWB? As has his VP? And his House Speaker? Are those the "extremists" you're referring to?
Counselor, you've been exposed. Either as a liar or an abject idiot.
I would say I rest my case, but the fact is I won it outright.
You apparently choose to ignore about 1/2 of everything I post, so it’s not a surprise you still don’t understand my position.
I said that any AW ban, if passed (which I doubt) would include grandfathering as to render it somewhat impotent for current gun owners ( which is what the damn thread was about).
But the thread was about a nationwide gun seizure and you want to claim some sort of moral victory on a minor tangent on which you haven’t been shown to be correct at all. [Reply]
Originally Posted by banyon:
Yes I read that. It doesn’t mention a 10 round limit.
Maybe I’m misremembering, but I could have swore it was in there. Looks like they’ve changed it some.
More importantly a cursory googling of high capacity magazine ban talks about 10. Even if it’s 20 that precludes the 30 round magazines that AR15s come with. Which again is the most common rifle in the US.
So even if I’m wrong about the 10 round thing, which I’m open to - I don’t have time to deep dive into anything political - it’s still a fucking travesty.
So you may not think his policy gets pushed through. But that’s way different than suggesting that I’m overreacting to published platforms.
What he has published no way doesn’t include 30 round magazines. Which again isn’t feasible for the most common rifle in the US. And depending on how ATF interprets it, it could include glocks because you can buy a 30 round magazine for Glock pistols.
Bottom line, it’s hard for me to buy that Biden’s gun policy as published - if he can push it through a Democrat controlled house and senate, won’t be a giant deal. That’s just being obtuse. [Reply]
Originally Posted by banyon:
But the thread was about a nationwide gun seizure and you want to claim some sort of moral victory on a minor tangent on which you haven’t been shown to be correct at all.
Originally Posted by Buehler445:
Maybe I’m misremembering, but I could have swore it was in there. Looks like they’ve changed it some.
More importantly a cursory googling of high capacity magazine ban talks about 10. Even if it’s 20 that precludes the 30 round magazines that AR15s come with. Which again is the most common rifle in the US.
So even if I’m wrong about the 10 round thing, which I’m open to - I don’t have time to deep dive into anything political - it’s still a fucking travesty.
So you may not think his policy gets pushed through. But that’s way different than suggesting that I’m overreacting to published platforms.
What he has published no way doesn’t include 30 round magazines. Which again isn’t feasible for the most common rifle in the US. And depending on how ATF interprets it, it could include glocks because you can buy a 30 round magazine for Glock pistols.
Bottom line, it’s hard for me to buy that Biden’s gun policy as published - if he can push it through a Democrat controlled house and senate, won’t be a giant deal. That’s just being obtuse.
I respect the way you have stated your view. I don’t disagree that 30 rd AR mags should not be banned (I own probably 3 or 4). I just don’t think it will happen.
30 rd pistol mag could get banned (esp since I think those were ones used by Cho at Va Tech. I do own one for fun at the range with my Glock19, but would not be upset if was included in a ban. [Reply]