One thing I learned after the pile-on I suffered in the draft forum recently is that, in lieu of the outstanding job Veach has done rebuilding the OL, we've all kind of downplayed the severity of the situation at DE.
Frank Clark is the only clearly starting DE on the roster.
If he gets hurt, which he will because he always does, our starting DEs will probably be Mike Danna and Taco Charlton, with Tim Ward and Joshua Kaindoh rotating in.
That's just not going to get it done, folks.
I'm going to lay out some options that I can foresee, let me know what you think is most likely. [Reply]
Originally Posted by BlackOp:
I think they would have been aggressive in getting a DE had Fisher not been injured...they had to do what they had to do.
They could have been aggressive in getting both. They undoubtedly have a plan for DE. [Reply]
Originally Posted by poolboy:
Seems like we are close if not already there...maybe they like the in -house players
Veach did say he was working on some FAs
It was later clarified that he was talking about UDFA [Reply]
Originally Posted by CoMoChief:
After Houston decided not to show up in the playoffs, it pretty much made up my mind that I don't want him ever wearing a Chiefs jersey again.
He had a couple really good seasons, 1 of those a REALLY good season.
Then he got paid and started getting injured and then became less and less productive.
I mean thats usually the way it works right lol ?
Zzzzzz are people still spouting this bs about Houston?? "Decided not to show up"??? Smh!!...hows about the Pats having a top level line? Too many folks are just deluded when it comes to certain players...he's got 19 sacks in two seasons since he left KC...if that ain't enough to tell you what he could add to this team then I can't help you. [Reply]
While I'd prefer to add Ingram or Kerrigan, it doesn't seem like it'd be the end of the world if we just platooned whoever they keep out of Charlton, Danna, Kaindoh and Ward
Reed is going to be a terror next to Jonesy, so that should help cover the lack of star power at DE [Reply]
Originally Posted by Easy 6:
While I'd prefer to add Ingram or Kerrigan, it doesn't seem like it'd be the end of the world if we just platooned whoever they keep out of Charlton, Danna, Kaindoh and Ward
Reed is going to be a terror next to Jonesy, so that should help cover the lack of star power at DE
Actually, I think we would be best served by having a DE who is strong against the run instead of a guy who can get after the QB. I mean, obviously we don't want him to be a wet blanket on passing downs, but with Jones and Reed in the middle, I don't exactly like the idea of putting Ingram at end and then watching RBs stack up 200+ yards against us.
Sort of like an Alex Okafor who's not made of glass. That would be nice. I don't think that kind of guy is available in free agency at the moment right now, I'm just saying what I'd like to see in an ideal world. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
Actually, I think we would be best served by having a DE who is strong against the run instead of a guy who can get after the QB. I mean, obviously we don't want him to be a wet blanket on passing downs, but with Jones and Reed in the middle, I don't exactly like the idea of putting Ingram at end and then watching RBs stack up 200+ yards against us.
Sort of like an Alex Okafor who's not made of glass. That would be nice. I don't think that kind of guy is available in free agency at the moment right now, I'm just saying what I'd like to see in an ideal world.
It did appear that, that was the plan previously. Danna may be that run plugger with a year in the gym and system. Then rotate Charlton in on 3rd and long.
Plot twist: Kaindoh is only here to be the Clark replacement, Okafors replacement is already on the roster, and they re did his deal last year after seeing Danna in training camp. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
Actually, I think we would be best served by having a DE who is strong against the run instead of a guy who can get after the QB. I mean, obviously we don't want him to be a wet blanket on passing downs, but with Jones and Reed in the middle, I don't exactly like the idea of putting Ingram at end and then watching RBs stack up 200+ yards against us.
Sort of like an Alex Okafor who's not made of glass. That would be nice. I don't think that kind of guy is available in free agency at the moment right now, I'm just saying what I'd like to see in an ideal world.
Fair point, we don't wanna be soft vs the run on the ends
But it also seems like a good idea, if possible, to hedge against Clarks diminishing returns
Last season was his fewest sacks since his rookie year... so if he keeps fading in 2021, we're left with little pass rush pop at either end [Reply]
Originally Posted by Dunerdr:
It did appear that, that was the plan previously. Danna may be that run plugger with a year in the gym and system. Then rotate Charlton in on 3rd and long.
Plot twist: Kaindoh is only here to be the Clark replacement, Okafors replacement is already on the roster, and they re did his deal last year after seeing Danna in training camp.
I’m wondering if Jones doesn’t get some run at DE this year. With Reed, Nnadi, and Saunders rotating at DT. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
Actually, I think we would be best served by having a DE who is strong against the run instead of a guy who can get after the QB. I mean, obviously we don't want him to be a wet blanket on passing downs, but with Jones and Reed in the middle, I don't exactly like the idea of putting Ingram at end and then watching RBs stack up 200+ yards against us.
Sort of like an Alex Okafor who's not made of glass. That would be nice. I don't think that kind of guy is available in free agency at the moment right now, I'm just saying what I'd like to see in an ideal world.
Why? We were 23rd in rushing attempts against us. [Reply]