Teams represented at Odell Beckham Jr.'s private workout in Arizona today included the Panthers, Giants, Patriots, Rams, Cardinals, 49ers, Bills, Chiefs, Vikings, Browns and Ravens, per source.
Talked to a few people who attended Odell Beckham's workout. One noted how noticeably muscular Beckham looks now, likening him to a combination of Saquon Barkley and Deebo Samuel. Another said Beckham is simply a gifted athlete and that hasn't changed. Explosion was there.
Originally Posted by Chief Northman:
Hopkins is the better receiver and better scheme fit at this point. He will take attention away from Kelce and is a favourable red zone matchup. I do not trust OBJ’s durability whatsoever and he doth protest too much. D-Hop is a consummate pro. He will work and wants a ring. OBJ wants a bag. Cap/dollars can be massaged/manipulated. Fit cannot.
I'm not sure that Beckham expects a bag. He's probably smart enough to understand that he can't command that in his situation. If not, he'll probably figure it out soon.
I don't worry too much about his ego causing problems. How often does that happen with Reid teams? He'd get plenty of touches and would be competing for a SB in the most creative offense in the league, with the best QB in the league and a coach that will scheme him open constantly. What's he going to bitch about? :-) [Reply]
I'd love to have Hopkins on the roster, but trading premier draft picks and giving a huge contract to an aging vet seems pretty desperate and risky. Leave that shit to the Bills or idiot franchises like Denver. [Reply]
I think Dhop is the more reliable player and you're more likely to get a complete season out of him.
When they're both fully healthy and on the field they're both premiere talents at the position, though i think OBJ offers a bit more speed. Both have some of the best hands in the game but i think the nod there goes to Dhop.
But with Dhop, you're paying a premium for that extra reliability as he'll cost at least 2-3x as much $$$ + draft picks.
You're effectively paying that additional premium for better odds that you'll get 20 games out of him.
Talent wise, they're similar. Health/availability wise, they're not. So imo, that's what you have to weigh out when determining if the additional cost to acquire one vs the other is worth it. [Reply]
Why not get 'em both? If anything just to hear the salty bitch crying from other fanbases about how everything is rigged in our favor and that the salary cap doesn't apply to us. Plus, we've already won 2, why not take a shot at an undefeated season while Kelce is still in his prime and the D is acceptable? [Reply]
Originally Posted by arrowheadnation:
Why not get 'em both? If anything just to hear the salty bitch crying from other fanbases about how everything is rigged in our favor and that the salary cap doesn't apply to us. Plus, we've already won 2, why not take a shot at an undefeated season while Kelce is still in his prime and the D is acceptable?
Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar:
I'd love to have Hopkins on the roster, but trading premier draft picks and giving a huge contract to an aging vet seems pretty desperate and risky. Leave that shit to the Bills or idiot franchises like Denver.
Premier? We don't have premier draft picks do we? [Reply]
Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar:
Thought it was reported that the Chiefs offered them a 2nd but they were holding out for a first. Haven't been keeping up with it closely.
I think if anyone were offering a 2nd his ass would be traded by now. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar:
Thought it was reported that the Chiefs offered them a 2nd but they were holding out for a first. Haven't been keeping up with it closely.
No, AFAIK nobody has offered them anything yet. At least not that's been acknowledged publicly. There's been several talking heads that have said the Cardinals starting price was a 2nd rounder. [Reply]
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
No, AFAIK nobody has offered them anything yet. At least not that's been acknowledged publicly. There's been several talking heads that have said the Cardinals starting price was a 2nd rounder.
I wouldn't be opposed to giving up the 2nd, especially when it's basically a 3rd. Not sure I'd pay him 18 per for 3 or more years though. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar:
I wouldn't be opposed to giving up the 2nd, especially when it's basically a 3rd. Not sure I'd pay him 18 per for 3 or more years though.
I think the fact that they want to open negotiations at a 2nd rounder suggest they'll take a 3rd or even 4th if they get the right offer. [Reply]
