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Nzoner's Game Room>Mahomes is 15 TDs away from passing Aikman
petegz28 07:47 AM 07-02-2022

Crazy Stat: Patrick Mahomes could throw 15 touchdowns the rest of his career and still finish with more career touchdown passes than Hall of Fame quarterback Troy Aikman.

Note: Mahomes has played in 102 less games. pic.twitter.com/YzE4B34Xh2

— Sea of Red Nation (@seaofrednation) July 1, 2022

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ThaVirus 06:27 AM 07-04-2022
Originally Posted by cosmo20002:
At first, I assumed Aikman was a lot better than he was. Clay's enthusiastic defense of him immediately made me reconsider.

Final ruling: Didn't suck, but really overrated considering he's a HOFer



Good completion numbers, but not a standout in other stats (yds, TDs).

He just didn't throw that much for someone considered a "star." Only 3 seasons in the top 10 in attempts when he ranked 7th, 8th and 10th.



Only had 1 year where he received any votes for MVP, when he finished 5th with 3 votes in 1993.



FWiW, on Pro Football Reference's Pro Football QB Hall of Fame Monitor (since 1955), he rates 64 points, which is 36th out of 37 QBs in the HOF. Jim Kelly is lower. Average QB HOFer is 104 points.

Ranked among all QBs, he's a little behind Rich Gannon.

You could make a similar case against Elway, but even a lot of Chiefs fans will admit he was a great QB.

I think Aikman was pretty clearly a good QB, though definitely a step down from guys like Montana, Young, Favre, Elway.
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Hammock Parties 08:58 AM 07-04-2022
Originally Posted by ThaVirus:
You could make a similar case against Elway, but even a lot of Chiefs fans will admit he was a great QB.

I think Aikman was pretty clearly a good QB, though definitely a step down from guys like Montana, Young, Favre, Elway.
he owned two of those guys in the postseason
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ThaVirus 08:59 AM 07-04-2022
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
he owned two of those guys in the postseason

A 40+ year old Brady “owns” Mahomes in the playoffs.

Means nothing.
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Hammock Parties 09:02 AM 07-04-2022
Originally Posted by ThaVirus:
A 40+ year old Brady “owns” Mahomes in the playoffs.

Means nothing.
means quite a bit actually
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Kiimo 11:11 AM 07-04-2022
Originally Posted by Nickhead:
how can we talk over rated without mentioning brady?

if aikmen were a patriot, he'd have ten super bowl appearances too :-)
I mean Brady threw 50 touchdowns in a season once it isn't the same
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lewdog 05:46 PM 07-04-2022
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
means quite a bit actually
You want to talk shit on Mahomes here?!

Have at it and I'll see that you're banded!
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big nasty kcnut 07:47 PM 07-04-2022
Troy sucked so bad that even some of his fans think he doesn't belong in the hall of fame. Trust me without that o line and Emmitt smith he's nothing. Pat is hall of fame without thinking about it he's that good.
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Chief Pagan 09:56 PM 07-04-2022
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
means quite a bit actually
Sure, the lazy approach that most fans and too many analysts fall into is a results driven narrative.

You think your boy toy, Troy was better than Marino because he won a bunch of rings?

A great QB can carry a team - up to a point.

And a great team can carry a middling QB*.

*See Trent Dilfer.
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Stewie 10:09 PM 07-04-2022
I'm glad we will no longer suffer on FOX broadcasts.
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RollChiefsRoll 10:49 PM 07-04-2022
Originally Posted by Chief Pagan:
Sure, the lazy approach that most fans and too many analysts fall into is a results driven narrative.

You think your boy toy, Troy was better than Marino because he won a bunch of rings?

A great QB can carry a team - up to a point.

And a great team can carry a middling QB*.

*See Trent Dilfer.
Trent threw 20+ TD in a season twice. Troy only did it once.
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Hammock Parties 07:47 AM 07-05-2022
Originally Posted by Chief Pagan:
And a great team can carry a middling QB*.

*See Trent Dilfer.
Aikman wasn't middling. He had elite accuracy and arm strength.
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Mile High Mania 08:47 AM 07-05-2022
Aikman was very accurate and overall a good QB, but damn he was lucky to have been drafted by THAT team during that build.

Aikman would have just been another mid-tier QB on another team during that span.
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Hammock Parties 09:09 AM 07-05-2022
Originally Posted by Mile High Mania:
Aikman was very accurate and overall a good QB, but damn he was lucky to have been drafted by THAT team during that build.

Aikman would have just been another mid-tier QB on another team during that span.
he would have succeeded on most teams due to his overwhelming talent

before the mobile QB revolution he was considered an almost perfect specimen as a pocket passer - you couldn't build a better QB in a lab

concussions robbed him of a lengthier and more productive career
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R Clark 09:14 AM 07-05-2022
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
he would have succeeded on most teams due to his overwhelming talent

before the mobile QB revolution he was considered an almost perfect specimen as a pocket passer - you couldn't build a better QB in a lab

concussions robbed him of a lengthier and more productive career
Lay the pipe down bitch your high enough
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RollChiefsRoll 09:24 AM 07-05-2022
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
he would have succeeded on most teams due to his overwhelming talent

before the mobile QB revolution he was considered an almost perfect specimen as a pocket passer - you couldn't build a better QB in a lab

concussions robbed him of a lengthier and more productive career
This is the most dedicated and consistent troll of your illustrious trolling career.

Aikman fucking sucked. Mark Brunell was better.
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