Crazy Stat: Patrick Mahomes could throw 15 touchdowns the rest of his career and still finish with more career touchdown passes than Hall of Fame quarterback Troy Aikman.
Clay, I wouldn't expect you to be able to troll the board like this on a nice afternoon now that you have a girlfriend. I can't believe what I'm seeing here!
Originally Posted by lewdog:
Clay, I wouldn't expect you to be able to troll the board like this on a nice afternoon now that you have a girlfriend. I can't believe what I'm seeing here!
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
for a good chunk of his career he and Young were neck and neck in the NFC as far as QB ability
a lot of his stats get completely ignored due to the difference in eras and the team he played on, which had a brick wall for a defense and an OL that churned out red zone TDs like fast food burgers
For example, in 1993, troy threw for 3100 yards and 15 TD. What a LOSER!
However, his '93 NFL rankings in:
Completion percentage: 1st (almost 70%, which was unheard of those days)
TDs: 10th
INTs: 1st
YPA: 2nd
Yards per game: 4th
QB rating: 2nd
Take those rankings and apply them to 2021:
70%
27 TD
4 INT
4,886 yards
108 QB rating
And now let's talk about "Playoff Troy Aikman."
When Troy had to face Favre, Kelly and Young in the postseason, you know what his averages were?
281 yards per game, 2.1 TD per game and 0.87 INT per game. And he went 7-1 in those games. That's as good as any QB from that era.
Yes, he was ****ing elite. People who say otherwise never watched him and also don't know what the **** they're talking about when comparing different passing eras.
Had he played today he'd have been dropping 4500 yards and 35 TD on the reg. Probably more, since it's impossible to assemble a team like Dallas did now. He'd be forced to throw more into defenses with far less teeth, that can't even hit him.
He'd buttrape.
He's Derek Carr. A good quarterback that looks good with an elite line and a good running game. Fringe top 10 against today's quarterbacks and would be 4th in the AFC West.
Jimmy Johnson, an elite line, Emmitt Smith, and Michael Irvin made a mediocre quarterback look better than he was. If he was in Kansas City in that era and Dave Kreig was on the Cowboys, Kreig would be in the hall of Fame and nobody would remember who Aikman was. [Reply]
Derek Carr doesn't have CLOSE to Troy Aikman's arm or accuracy, not to mention pocket presence. Aikman stood tall in the pocket. I don't ever recall seeing him run from phantom pressure or bail out of a clean pocket.
Derek Carr is a pussy. They're not in the same stratosphere of quarterbacking.
The relaxing of passing rules today is why bums like Derek Carr can throw for 4,000 yards.
If you had put prime Aikman on the 1999 Rams, that team becomes a dynasty instead of a one-off.
Troy was one of the greatest pocket QBs of all time. ALL TIME, MAN. Jugs machine. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
Terrible comparison.
Derek Carr doesn't have CLOSE to Troy Aikman's arm or accuracy, not to mention pocket presence. Aikman stood tall in the pocket. I don't ever recall seeing him run from phantom pressure or bail out of a clean pocket.
Derek Carr is a pussy. They're not in the same stratosphere of quarterbacking.
The relaxing of passing rules today is why bums like Derek Carr can throw for 4,000 yards.
If you had put prime Aikman on the 1999 Rams, that team becomes a dynasty instead of a one-off.
Troy was one of the greatest pocket QBs of all time. ALL TIME, MAN. Jugs machine.
I agree. You can't compare stats when it comes to the QB in these different eras. It was much harder to throw the ball in the 90s.
Derek Carr would have gotten killed in 90s when QBs werent as protected. He panics far too often and is too inconsistent to be considered on Aikmans level. [Reply]
