Crazy Stat: Patrick Mahomes could throw 15 touchdowns the rest of his career and still finish with more career touchdown passes than Hall of Fame quarterback Troy Aikman.
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
the aikman slander needs to end
he was elite, just elite for a shorter period of time due to concussions, and without a lot of gaudy numbers because he played on such stacked teams
aikman could pick the flies off a rhino's ass at 50 yards, and the rhino wouldn't hear the ball coming - that's how sweet of a ball he could throw when he was on
is mahomes better than aikman? without question - doesn't mean aikman wasn't a ****ing badass QB
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
the aikman slander needs to end
he was elite, just elite for a shorter period of time due to concussions, and without a lot of gaudy numbers because he played on such stacked teams
aikman could pick the flies off a rhino's ass at 50 yards, and the rhino wouldn't hear the ball coming - that's how sweet of a ball he could throw when he was on
is mahomes better than aikman? without question - doesn't mean aikman wasn't a fucking badass QB
Aikman means nothing to me or any other modern viewer of NFL football. I'd publicly slander his career for a nickel and a roast beef sandwich. Twice.
I'm just tearing down Aikman because it's fun, and Mahomes looking even better is just a pleasant side outcome. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
for a good chunk of his career he and Young were neck and neck in the NFC as far as QB ability
a lot of his stats get completely ignored due to the difference in eras and the team he played on, which had a brick wall for a defense and an OL that churned out red zone TDs like fast food burgers
For example, in 1993, troy threw for 3100 yards and 15 TD. What a LOSER!
However, his '93 NFL rankings in:
Completion percentage: 1st (almost 70%, which was unheard of those days)
TDs: 10th
INTs: 1st
YPA: 2nd
Yards per game: 4th
QB rating: 2nd
Take those rankings and apply them to 2021:
70%
27 TD
4 INT
4,886 yards
108 QB rating
And now let's talk about "Playoff Troy Aikman."
When Troy had to face Favre, Kelly and Young in the postseason, you know what his averages were?
281 yards per game, 2.1 TD per game and 0.87 INT per game. And he went 7-1 in those games. That's as good as any QB from that era.
Yes, he was ****ing elite. People who say otherwise never watched him and also don't know what the **** they're talking about when comparing different passing eras.
Had he played today he'd have been dropping 4500 yards and 35 TD on the reg. Probably more, since it's impossible to assemble a team like Dallas did now. He'd be forced to throw more into defenses with far less teeth, that can't even hit him.
He'd buttrape.
Just like modern rules would help out Troy, modern rules would also really help Young take advantage of his scrambling ability. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Kiimosabi:
I don't mind him as an announcer. I just think he's kind of a dumb chode as a person and extremely overrated as a QB that handed it to Emmitt and occasionally hit the TE or WR who was wide open
Name a color guy who currently does NFL games more boring and sleep-inducing than Aikman.
You don't have to scream and squeal like Romo to not be boring. You can be monotone and emotionless as long as you say interesting stuff and deliver it in a timely fashion.
Aikman speaks in tired cliches far too often and is capable of saying some pretty stupid stuff on occasion. He's like John Madden without any charm or joy in what he does. He's awful. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
Name a color guy who currently does NFL games more boring and sleep-inducing than Aikman.
A color guy? Is that what Aikman is? I have never thought of him that way. Maybe because he's teamed up with Joe Buck who I hate with the fire of a thousand suns that he seems so much better in comparison.
There's only one good announcer and that is Kevin Harlan. Everyone else is degrees of bad and that includes Mitch [Reply]
objectively speaking, there was almost no difference in physical ability between carson palmer and troy aikman
yet one has 46,000 yards and 294 TDs
was he a better QB? hell no - he just played in a different era
in the modern era, troy falls somewhere between matt ryan and matthew stafford
his arm wasn't quite as strong as stafford's, but it was certainly stronger than ryan's, and he wasn't such a dopey fuck neither
trent green was a poor man's troy aikman
you don't have to like troy, but you damn well better respect him - to those of who lived his prime in the city of dallas, he was and still is like a greek god [Reply]