Kansas City is trading its first-round pick Thursday night, along with three other picks in the 2021 and 2022 drafts, to the Baltimore Ravens in exchange for Pro Bowl OT Orlando Brown and one pick in the 2021 draft and another in 2022, per sources.
All right well if we can get a HB equivalent for cheaper than fine. But that should also drive his price down. And like I said he's not helping his price at all with his play this year, which could be good for us.
Counting on non-early-first-round draft pick to be an immediate starter always makes me nervous because it's still a crapshoot. You never know until you see them on the field for a few NFL games. [Reply]
Honey Badger does add major intangibles. Look at the bullet we dodged with Earl Thomas - who we all wanted. HB was the consolation prize. You have to factor in known quantity/bird-in-the-hand to the equation at least somewhat.
I don't care if HB is an idiot on twitter. His teammates love him, and he fires up the defense when they need it. Hobo Spirit sucked at that by the end of his career. [Reply]
Originally Posted by suzzer99:
All right well if we can get a HB equivalent for cheaper than fine. But that should also drive his price down. And like I said he's not helping his price at all with his play this year, which could be good for us.
Counting on non-early-first-round draft pick to be an immediate starter always makes me nervous because it's still a crapshoot. You never know until you see them on the field for a few NFL games.
It's not necessarily about being cheaper, though.
If HB wants top 3 money, you could go get Marcus Williams instead. He'd be expensive but he'd also be an all-star safety that's younger than HB. [Reply]
Originally Posted by suzzer99:
Honey Badger does add major intangibles. Look at the bullet we dodged with Earl Thomas - who we all wanted. HB was the consolation prize. You have to factor in known quantity/bird-in-the-hand to the equation at least somewhat.
I don't care if HB is an idiot on twitter. His teammates love him, and he fires up the defense when they need it. Hobo Spirit sucked at that by the end of his career.
:-) Mathieu wasn't the consolation prize. The fuck you on about? Folks wanted to trade for Thomas in 2018 until he broke his leg. We signed Mathieu the following off season, and threw a 1 year deal to Thomas who almost took it until Baltimore gave him a multi year deal. [Reply]
Originally Posted by suzzer99:
Honey Badger does add major intangibles. Look at the bullet we dodged with Earl Thomas - who we all wanted. HB was the consolation prize. You have to factor in known quantity/bird-in-the-hand to the equation at least somewhat.
I don't care if HB is an idiot on twitter. His teammates love him, and he fires up the defense when they need it. Hobo Spirit sucked at that by the end of his career.
It's about the ROI with Mathieu over the length of his new contract. It's very possible that he does not outplay, or even play up to his contract, and especially if he gets what he thinks he is worth. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Superturtle: :-) Mathieu wasn't the consolation prize. The **** you on about? Folks wanted to trade for Thomas in 2018 until he broke his leg. We signed Mathieu the following off season, and threw a 1 year deal to Thomas who almost took it until Baltimore gave him a multi year deal.
Ok yeah I forget the exact sequence. But before the leg break he was the one.
Anyway the point is you never know until you get them on the team and in games. We dodged a bullet when Thomas broke his leg. Dude is a personal disaster. [Reply]
Originally Posted by suzzer99:
Ok yeah I forget the exact sequence. But before the leg break he was the one.
Anyway the point is you never know until you get them on the team and in games. We dodged a bullet when Thomas broke his leg. Dude is a personal disaster.
Yeah. Because he was in a very public dispute with the Seahawks at the time and we DESPERATELY needed help at that point. He was the only realistic option at that point in time. [Reply]
Originally Posted by tredadda:
It's about the ROI with Mathieu over the length of his new contract. It's very possible that he does not outplay, or even play up to his contract, and especially if he gets what he thinks he is worth.
Age is a major factor here, independent of skill level.
He's too old to give him a top-dollar contract. It's just not smart. [Reply]
Originally Posted by tredadda:
It's about the ROI with Mathieu over the length of his new contract. It's very possible that he does not outplay, or even play up to his contract, and especially if he gets what he thinks he is worth.
Like I said, I'm ok with selling out to win the next few years while Hill and Kelce are still at the top of their game. If we have to eat some terrible deals on the back end while we rebuild it's worth it imo. [Reply]
Originally Posted by suzzer99:
Like I said, I'm ok with selling out to win the next few years while Hill and Kelce are still at the top of their game. If we have to eat some terrible deals on the back end while we rebuild it's worth it imo.
You have a perpetual window with Mahomes. Tying up money to the point that you're forced to "rebuild" to clean up the cap mess is just foolish. [Reply]
