Sources: Four-time Pro Bowl tackle and Super Bowl champ Orlando Brown Jr. is finalizing a four-year, $64.092 million front-loaded deal with the #Bengals that includes an over $31M signing bonus — largest ever for an o-lineman.
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
im positive that we would have given him that same contract. So why didn’t we? Did Brown take it personal when we didn’t make his a top 5 paid LT?
Do you think that’s what he was after? He wanted to reset the market…not be the 17th highest paid LT. Dude fucked himself over. [Reply]
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
im positive that we would have given him that same contract. So why didn’t we? Did Brown take it personal when we didn’t make his a top 5 paid LT?
I highly doubt he "took it personal" and then played an entire season with the team, won a SB, and then was determined to leave in free agency because of what happened the prior offseason. [Reply]
Originally Posted by TwistedChief:
I think I would've slightly preferred OBJ at that price point to Williams given continuity, etc, but Veach may have pivoted earlier and OBJ's demands may have only dropped as the last couple days evolved.
Regardless, it's a close call and it'll be fun having new blood on the OL that we think has a higher ceiling.
Seth Keysor already charted Taylor against the top pass rushers he faced last season and compared it to a similar sample from OBJ.
Apparently, Taylor pretty much never lost reps in pass protection. Keysor was raving about how stark the difference was. He wins with his feet and athleticism, which is just the beginning for his potential as his technique improves.
He said too that Taylor’s only real struggle was rushers who could translate speed to power (which is somewhat rare), and even then his losses weren’t THAT bad.
He also can really use his athleticism to get to the second level and pull in the run game, even though he isn’t a road grader.
TL;DR: Taylor is the prototypical Andy Reid OT. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Detoxing:
The real question is how does this affect their ability to retain players moving forward. Assuming they ain't bullshitting and keep Higgins, and they'll certainly keep Chase and Burrow...the rest of that roster is gonna be paper thin.
Seems like Cincy did pretty well on the Orlando deal. Not overpaying him by any means. It's only 4 years as well. They have ways to kick the can down the road with Burrow & Chase in particular. Even after Burrow signs, they will play the restructure game just like every other team. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Detoxing:
The real question is how does this affect their ability to retain players moving forward. Assuming they ain't bullshitting and keep Higgins, and they'll certainly keep Chase and Burrow...the rest of that roster is gonna be paper thin.
I think it's intentionally front loaded for their two year window before Chase is due. [Reply]
Originally Posted by TwistedChief:
I think I would've slightly preferred OBJ at that price point to Williams given continuity, etc, but Veach may have pivoted earlier and OBJ's demands may have only dropped as the last couple days evolved.
Regardless, it's a close call and it'll be fun having new blood on the OL that we think has a higher ceiling.
If the Chiefs really think Taylor can transition to LT, and he does, I don't think anybody will feel that way in hindsight. [Reply]
Originally Posted by TwistedChief:
I think I would've slightly preferred OBJ at that price point to Williams given continuity, etc, but Veach may have pivoted earlier and OBJ's demands may have only dropped as the last couple days evolved.
Regardless, it's a close call and it'll be fun having new blood on the OL that we think has a higher ceiling.
The problem is Orlando refused to sign for this type of deal with KC. He wanted $23-25M per year from the Chiefs. He had to go on the open market to eat the humble pie and sign a reasonable contract. I assume Cincy offered him $14-15M per year and he had to play hardball to squeeze the $16M per year out of them. [Reply]
