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DaFace 11:23 AM 06-27-2016
A place to talk about investing stuff.
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lewdog 09:33 AM 05-09-2019
Here we go!!!
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Hog's Gone Fishin 09:34 AM 05-09-2019
Ugh.
time to close the laptop!
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RunKC 09:34 AM 05-09-2019
I hope Trump figures a deal out with China tomorrow. What a damn brutal day :-)
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RunKC 09:41 AM 05-09-2019
I’m worried that China is going to retaliate tomorrow and fuck the market
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Amnorix 09:45 AM 05-09-2019
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
It's too early to dump it. Long-term play, at least until the Chinese market turns.

I don't see the logic here. Let's say your stock in the company is worth -- whatever - $1,000 today. It is utterly irrelevant how much you spent to GET that stock. That is where you are today.

Your choices are:

1. sell, lock in the loss (which can be used to offset taxable gains elsewhere), invest in something else, or

2. hold, waiting for...something. The stock to recover so you take no loss I guess. Or less of one.

Would you be better off a year from now, or ten, if you sold today, took the loss, had the tax write off, and invested in teh S&P 500 or whatever, or continued to hold this dog of a stock? The answer is likely clear. If your stock is down, whatever, 50%, then you don't need it to go up 50%, you need it to go up 100% to get back to even. What are the chances of that? Yeah, likely not good. If the odds were good it was going to go up 100%, then it's a strong buy for EVERYONE, not just a hold for you. But are people buying? Apparently not.


This is nothing more than the Disposition Effect in action.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disposition_effect
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Amnorix 10:33 AM 05-09-2019
Originally Posted by Amnorix:
Boeing currently at $371. I just put in a limit order to buy a small amount if the price gets to $350 or less. Will probably never execute, which is fine.

Guess what order just got filled at $347.94? We'll see if it takes off, or if I got a small discount on a stock on an extended spiral heading into a crash landing...
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Buehler445 10:45 AM 05-09-2019
Originally Posted by RunKC:
I hope Trump figures a deal out with China tomorrow. What a damn brutal day :-)
No shit. And I just watch the grain markets.
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Hog's Gone Fishin 12:12 PM 05-09-2019
Originally Posted by Amnorix:
I don't see the logic here. Let's say your stock in the company is worth -- whatever - $1,000 today. It is utterly irrelevant how much you spent to GET that stock. That is where you are today.

Your choices are:

1. sell, lock in the loss (which can be used to offset taxable gains elsewhere), invest in something else, or

2. hold, waiting for...something. The stock to recover so you take no loss I guess. Or less of one.

Would you be better off a year from now, or ten, if you sold today, took the loss, had the tax write off, and invested in teh S&P 500 or whatever, or continued to hold this dog of a stock? The answer is likely clear. If your stock is down, whatever, 50%, then you don't need it to go up 50%, you need it to go up 100% to get back to even. What are the chances of that? Yeah, likely not good. If the odds were good it was going to go up 100%, then it's a strong buy for EVERYONE, not just a hold for you. But are people buying? Apparently not.


This is nothing more than the Disposition Effect in action.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disposition_effect
I thought this too with KBLB. Lost out on $170K. I should have held. What is it Warren Buffett says. The stock market is a means to take money from the impatient and give to the patient. Err somethin like that.
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displacedinMN 06:18 PM 05-09-2019
Originally Posted by Buehler445:
No shit. And I just watch the grain markets.
No kidding. Cash rent will be lower again next year.

Less for kid in college
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Hog's Gone Fishin 07:07 AM 05-10-2019
Anybody buying UBER this morning. IPO opening at $45
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wutamess 07:17 AM 05-10-2019
Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin:
Anybody buying UBER this morning. IPO opening at $45
I'm getting in.
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Buehler445 07:21 AM 05-10-2019
Ummmm....

https://www.forbes.com/sites/lensher.../#53e7d6d310ec
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Hog's Gone Fishin 08:08 AM 05-10-2019
Originally Posted by Buehler445:
Ummmm....

https://www.forbes.com/sites/lensher.../#53e7d6d310ec
Yeah, they haven't made any money at all but they are the biggest in the business. Netflix,facebook etc.....

I throwing 2K at it for shits and giggles. Not going to look at it for 2 years.
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Buehler445 08:11 AM 05-10-2019
Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin:
Yeah, they haven't made any money at all but they are the biggest in the business. Netflix,facebook etc.....

I throwing 2K at it for shits and giggles. Not going to look at it for 2 years.
Right on. Might be a hell of a good deal. But it all has to reconcile back to cash at some point. It would spook me.

But hey!

My farm is making more money than that. Wanna buy some stock :-)
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ghak99 08:37 AM 05-10-2019
I don't want to ruin my last move, but will reluctantly put a little in and hope for a quick emotional move. Can't let Hog have all the fun!
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