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Patteeu Memorial Political Forum>The Afghanistan lesson
El Lobo Gordo 12:33 AM 08-13-2021
Afghanistan is showing us that secular humanist societies are doomed to fall because they do not orientate the members of that society toward something that is "good".

I am not saying that the Taliban are good. I am saying that religion motivates people toward a singular purpose while secular humanism invites eventual death and destruction. The more the free west abdanons it judeo/christian faith, the more likely it is to fall.
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cosmo20002 06:59 AM 08-13-2021
Originally Posted by Bump:
shut the **** up. The nation was much better off before we abandoned God. I used to say shit like that and I look back and it was pretty embarrassing and just flat out wrong.
:-)when did that take place exactly?
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BigBeauford 07:29 AM 08-13-2021
I dont understand this thread at all. Afghanistan is 99% Muslim, and its a complete shitshow. I'm trying to understand the premise: are you trying to make a "fight fire with fire" argument? That seems to be the exact opposite argument we should be making: their country is a huge religious shithole, so we need to be a bigger religious shithole!
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banyon 07:29 AM 08-13-2021
Originally Posted by HonestChieffan:
Take the biased spin out.

If there was a lesson, it is we should not spend trillions on a war we have no interest in winning, fighting over a rock populated with 4th century subhumans. Best to arm both sides and stay home.

We have not learned that lesson since Korea
Agree with HCF on this one.
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Wisconsin_Chief 07:32 AM 08-13-2021
Looks like the Taliban is on the verge of taking the whole country back. Reports are within 30 days they will have taken Kabul. 20 years, billions of dollars and countless lives lost for absolutely nothing.

Disgusting.
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Garcia Bronco 07:33 AM 08-13-2021
Originally Posted by banyon:
Agree with HCF on this one.
Me too. I say just don't get involved other than containing them there
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notorious 07:38 AM 08-13-2021
Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief:
Looks like the Taliban is on the verge of taking the whole country back. Reports are within 30 days they will have taken Kabul. 20 years, billions of dollars and countless lives lost for absolutely nothing.

Disgusting.
The Afgan people should be ashamed.

This is what they get for not standing up.
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KC_Lee 07:43 AM 08-13-2021
Ever since The Great Game, this region has been ****ed.

And of course....

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BDj23 07:45 AM 08-13-2021
There's only one way to defeat an ideology
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crayzkirk 08:13 AM 08-13-2021
As is typical, humans don't learn from history. We repeat the same mistakes over and over. Because 'they' are smarter and better than those that failed before them..

Humans... Rationalizing, not rational, animals...

We
aren't
going
to
make
it
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louie aguiar 08:16 AM 08-13-2021
Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief:
Looks like the Taliban is on the verge of taking the whole country back. Reports are within 30 days they will have taken Kabul. 20 years, billions of dollars and countless lives lost for absolutely nothing.

Disgusting.
It's actually into the trillions. $2.261 trillion What an absolute disaster.
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BDj23 08:17 AM 08-13-2021
Originally Posted by louie aguiar:
It's actually into the trillions. $2.261 trillion What an absolute disaster.
But some suits at Raytheon and Haliburton probably got rich so that's good I guess.
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BleedingRed 08:18 AM 08-13-2021
Oh boy a tribal society is still tribal. I couldn't see this coming at all...........
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Prison Bitch 08:52 AM 08-13-2021
Originally Posted by frozenchief:
The term Judeo-Christian is an oxymoron. It is contrary to the foundations of both Judaism and Christianity. Note the following website is from the Judaistic perspective:

http://judaism.is/judeo-christian.html
This cannot be said enough^
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Dallas Chief 09:08 AM 08-13-2021
Ike was right then, and he is right now. Keeping the good ole boys paid. Just like Wall Street, Insurance Companies, et. al.
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scho63 09:30 AM 08-13-2021
Faith and spiritually contribute to making a society better.

Devout zealots not so much.
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