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The Gonzo Lounge>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

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lawrenceRaider 05:58 AM Yesterday
Originally Posted by TLO:
I know I've mentioned this several times before in this thread, but events keep happening that lead me to say this once again.

Rochelle Walensky needs replaced.
Definitely. She clearly is far too emotion driven to be in a job that needs to be driven by logic.
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carlos3652 06:41 AM Yesterday
Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla:
I would rather have a digital "card" than the oversized physical one that I currently have. I really don't give a **** what people call it or what irrational fears you have about it.
Itís a discriminatory tool that is used to not allow people basic necessities in France like groceries or be able to work.

I donít want that to happen here. Iíve been told last year that, that would never happen and it was a conspiracy theory of fear.
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carlos3652 06:47 AM Yesterday
If you can tell me what other requirements I need to enter Walmart to purchase food outside of this “digital card” I’m all ears.

I need to have a social security number and proof of citizenship / resident / visa to be able to work, now I have to add vaccine to work?

Those aren’t based on irrational fears. It’s being talked about.

Edit: I’m not anti vax, I think it helps and my parents who are 75 are going to take boosters. I think forcing and coercing people to take it is wrong, and denying people basic things based on that is wrong as well.
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Monticore 07:42 AM Yesterday
Originally Posted by carlos3652:
If you can tell me what other requirements I need to enter Walmart to purchase food outside of this ďdigital cardĒ Iím all ears.

I need to have a social security number and proof of citizenship / resident / visa to be able to work, now I have to add vaccine to work?

Those arenít based on irrational fears. Itís being talked about.

Edit: Iím not anti vax, I think it helps and my parents who are 75 are going to take boosters. I think forcing and coercing people to take it is wrong, and denying people basic things based on that is wrong as well.
Here you donít need it for groceries or other necessities, and most donít need it for work there is an opt out option .
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carlos3652 07:58 AM Yesterday
Originally Posted by Monticore:
Here you donít need it for groceries or other necessities, and most donít need it for work there is an opt out option .
We donít know what OSHA is going to require yet and my job is having discussions on how to handle.

Most companies will no longer hire without asking for you to take the vaccine (at least at the ones Iím applying for) to avoid that headache.

Also, companies are having discussions of out right mandating it because that would be a simpler solution.

Many bigger companies have already mandated them.

And if you think what is happening in France, Israel and Australia is not coming our way with regards to groceries / basic necessities you arenít paying attention.

That being said you are technically correct as of right now. I was also told that vaccine mandates would not happen last year by the same people saying something different now.
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IA_Chiefs_fan 09:02 AM Yesterday
carlos3652, although we have plenty of commonality, your opinions tend to differ from mine on this topic. I just wanted to say that I appreciate your well though out positions. You've given me a few things to consider in this thread.
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carlos3652 09:12 AM Yesterday
Originally Posted by IA_Chiefs_fan:
carlos3652, although we have plenty of commonality, your opinions tend to differ from mine on this topic. I just wanted to say that I appreciate your well though out positions. You've given me a few things to consider in this thread.
I appreciate you reading and trying to understand my position. I just think people are being black and white on this subject and there is a lot of grey that is just being ignored.

every country is treating this different. Norway just stated that they would class Covid 19 as a seasonal respiratory disease like the flu and lift restrictions soon.

https://www.thelocal.no/20210921/nor...ed-to-the-flu/

Doesnít mean you shouldnít get vaccinated if you are high risk or even feel like you need to.

Everyone has different positions and different opinions, and thatís ok. Plus Iíd like to think that I could have a beer with most people on this board and not let opinions change the fact that I would enjoy hanging out discussing football and bullshit
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IA_Chiefs_fan 09:21 AM Yesterday
Originally Posted by carlos3652:
I appreciate you reading and trying to understand my position. I just think people are being black and white on this subject and there is a lot of grey that is just being ignored.

Everyone has different positions and different opinions, and thatís ok. Plus Iíd like to think that I could have a beer with most people on this board and not let opinions change the fact that I would enjoy hanging out discussing football and bullshit
Yep, I feel the same way! Cheers, brother.
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lawrenceRaider 11:02 AM Yesterday
Originally Posted by carlos3652:
Itís a discriminatory tool that is used to not allow people basic necessities in France like groceries or be able to work.

I donít want that to happen here. Iíve been told last year that, that would never happen and it was a conspiracy theory of fear.
It won't be happening as a nationwide thing here. Period. Most states would fight it to the SC and win because really the Feds have no control over intra state commerce.

Perhaps some of the nanny states, like California, may try to mandate something, but Kansas, Missouri, Texas and many others won't.
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