One is a legit deep threat WR with the #1 average yards per reception and top 3 contested catch rate at 75%, the other has such a bad drop rate at 11.3% that they needed to hand the ball off to him and play him in the wild cat.
Genuine question, I don’t watch college football. [Reply]
Originally Posted by kccrow:
I really don't see Veach taking a WR in the 1st or 2nd round this year. Maybe 3rd or 4th round. Someone will be around in that range like Bond, Royals, Felton, Williams, Lane, etc. They really need a good developmental slot.
I think it's an absolute pipe dream to think Egbuka or Golden will be anywhere near our pick. Hell, I really don't think Burden will be either. The bottom drops out after those guys to a bunch of 3rd round types so I think they'll get snapped up pretty quickly.
What are your thoughts on Ricky White in the 4th? [Reply]
Originally Posted by el borracho:
What are your thoughts on Ricky White in the 4th?
Nah. Don't want.
My guilty pleasure at WR in this draft is Jaylin Noel from Iowa State. Really want him at 63 or 66.
If we don't go WR that early, I'd say my guys on day 3 are Tai Felton from Maryland (though he could go day 2) and Elijhah Badger from Florida in the 4th. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Bowser:
With JuJu back in the fold on a one year deal, does that change the focus on what they're thinking regarding WR in the draft? And by that, does it indicate DE/DL will be the first pick (barring unforeseen drops by players that they didn't think would drop)?
Imo, JuJu doesn't move the needle at all. He caught just 18 balls for 231 yds in 14 games last season. At best, he's a weak WR4 or a WR5. he's regressed to being Skyy in his 2nd year. he can block and that's about it. [Reply]
Was just listening to Brett Kollman's offensive gems, he has Tre Harris and Jayden Higgins way higher than most. They are both the X body type, I wonder if either would fall conveniently to a Chiefs pick back of 2nd/early 3rd. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
Imo, JuJu doesn't move the needle at all. He caught just 18 balls for 231 yds in 14 games last season. At best, he's a weak WR4 or a WR5. he's regressed to being Skyy in his 2nd year. he can block and that's about it.
He's a chain mover and zone beater at this point. His stats might look like 28 rec, 265 yds, 3 TDs this season. Anything past that is fluff.
I still hope we take one of Burden or Egbuka if they fall, but I feel it's more and more likely we're going defensive line at 31. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chargem:
Was just listening to Brett Kollman's offensive gems, he has Tre Harris and Jayden Higgins way higher than most. They are both the X body type, I wonder if either would fall conveniently to a Chiefs pick back of 2nd/early 3rd.
Heavily depends on what positions see runs early. If there is a run on WR, there's no way they'll last until 63. If there are runs at another position or two, they might be available.
I ran several quick mocks to see whether they might drop to where we're picking at 63/66. Harris never made it that far, but Higgins was available about 2/3 of the time. All it takes to miss out on them though is for a couple teams that need WRs to have draft boards with them higher up. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Bowser:
He's a chain mover and zone beater at this point. His stats might look like 28 rec, 265 yds, 3 TDs this season. Anything past that is fluff.
I still hope we take one of Burden or Egbuka if they fall, but I feel it's more and more likely we're going defensive line at 31.
Tbh, I’m not sure he even has that left in him. I think I read that his avg depth of that last season was about 4.0 yds. For comparison DHop’s was 8.0, iirc.
I mean, at this point it’s moot; we signed him. So I hope he’s everything you stated, because we need someone to step up a little. Jus not going to expect much from him. [Reply]
I think the Egbuka and Burden hopes are mostly pipe dreams. Let’s be honest - plenty of Chiefs fans are Mizzou fans so are biased towards Burden. Nothing wrong with that - I wanted the Chiefs to draft Keon Coleman last year, and boy was I wrong. But it seems unlikely the Chiefs will burn a 2nd, a 1st and a 1st in consecutive years on wideouts. A 2nd round WR is the earliest I’d see a WR being drafted, even if Egbuka, Burden or someone else is available at 31. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
Imo, JuJu doesn't move the needle at all. He caught just 18 balls for 231 yds in 14 games last season. At best, he's a weak WR4 or a WR5. he's regressed to being Skyy in his 2nd year. he can block and that's about it.
What we NEED is the top 3 WR's to play most of the games together. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
What we NEED is the top 3 WR's to play most of the games together.
This, all day.
It sucks not knowing Rice's status for the season, both health wise and regarding a possible suspension. Throw that on top of the fact Hollywood hasn't played a full season since '21, and it's easy to feel like if either Burden or Egbuka are there, one of them will be the pick. Fortunately, there are good candidates down draft to consider (Jalen Royals) if we go another direction, but man do I like the thought of our top four eventually being Rice, Worthy, Hollywood, and Burden/Egbuka. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Semichief:
I think the Egbuka and Burden hopes are mostly pipe dreams. Let’s be honest - plenty of Chiefs fans are Mizzou fans so are biased towards Burden. Nothing wrong with that - I wanted the Chiefs to draft Keon Coleman last year, and boy was I wrong. But it seems unlikely the Chiefs will burn a 2nd, a 1st and a 1st in consecutive years on wideouts. A 2nd round WR is the earliest I’d see a WR being drafted, even if Egbuka, Burden or someone else is available at 31.
This is drafting for need, not BPA.
If Egbuka or Burden are available at 31, it’s highly likely they are the best players available at the most valuable positions, possibly the last guys with true 1sr round grades on the Chiefs board.
I would take either over Simmons or Conerly or any of the DTs/DL likely to be left (assuming Nolen and Hampton are gone in this scenario). [Reply]
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
This is drafting for need, not BPA.
If Egbuka or Burden are available at 31, it’s highly likely they are the best players available at the most valuable positions, possibly the last guys with true 1sr round grades on the Chiefs board.
I would take either over Simmons or Conerly or any of the DTs/DL likely to be left (assuming Nolen and Hampton are gone in this scenario).
And WR is never a bad idea to take, any and every year, as they're getting so expensive. [Reply]