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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
With that level or risk, him getting back to 'what he was before' has to mean a top 5 talent, IMO. That's where the risk is worth the reward.

Simmons is, IMO, a guy who wouldn't have clearly set himself apart from the Campbell or Membou in an OT draft that is pretty dang weak at the top. Even healthy, I'm not sure he's the top OT in the class.

"What he was" has to be INCREDIBLY valuable in order for me to be willing to look past the injury and be willing to take the risk. I just don't think he was THAT good. Top 15 -- sure.

But top 5? Nah. The best OT in the class? Probably not. And when you're a good but not elite prospect to begin with, you just don't have that far you can drop off to begin with. If he was an elite prospect at comes back at 90% of what he was, that's probably still an NFL starter. If he was a good prospect and comes back at 90%, it almost certainly isn't.

Then you have some questions as to Ohio State offensive linemen -- notably the fact that Paris Johnson, who was definitely a better pure prospect than Simmons, hasn't been what anyone hoped. Taylor Decker was quite some time ago and really that's the only successful OL to have come from Ohio State of late, is it not? Am I missing anyone?

There are just too many flags there. Maybe the board gets massacred and I'd take him anyway, but it seems really really unlikely.

I get that Jaylon Moore was on a prove it deal, but the Chiefs were lightning fast on that guy. The deal was announced like 10 seconds after the tampering period opened.

I think they know how hard they have it picking so late. They know if Simmons is there at 31 it’s bc a shit ton of highly paid Dr’s on other teams staffs think his injury isn’t worth it so early. Packers and Ravens are successful franchises that just had him in on a visit, likely to have him meet with their own staff to check out his leg up close.

Conerly is the only LT I could see them picking in rd 1 assuming they do at all.
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Love it. @McShay13’s latest mock has the Chiefs getting Walter Nolen at 31 ��#ChiefsKingdom pic.twitter.com/Ufprba7LgB
— Chief Concerns (@ConcernsChief) April 11, 2025

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Yes please!
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Nick Wright 2.0 has us going Derrick Harmon....Nolen was grabbed earlier by the Ravens
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Originally Posted by poolboy:
Nick Wright 2.0 has us going Derrick Harmon....Nolen was grabbed earlier by the Ravens

Would love either to fall to 31...I think both are going to be extremely productive DL's in the league...and quickly. I just don't know if that will actually happen.
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Anyone have ESPN+ and want to post results from their 3 rounder today?
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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato:
Anyone have ESPN+ and want to post results from their 3 rounder today?

Enjoy the ride

ROUND 1

Spoiler!

Round 2

Spoiler!

ROUND 3

Spoiler!

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Originally Posted by staylor26:
A healthy Simmons is better than any player that will possibly be available other than Nolen, who will also only be there for reasons other than football.

Some of you are just way too extreme with the anti-Simmons stuff. And I'm just not seeing it outside of CP. I'm starting to think we have some groupthink going on here.

It's one thing to be concerned about the injury and not wanting to take the risk. It's another to pretend he isn't a top 15 talent when healthy that has no business being available at 31 otherwise.

Personally, I think Conerly is a better OT than Simmons when Simmons is healthy, which I haven't spoken much about. I'm not in the consensus there by any means, but there are some who agree. I think Simmons is a bit better in the run game but not as good in pass protection. I like Conerly's movement better. It's close, but if Simmons didn't have the injury, I'd still go with Conerly as my preference.

The very fact that Simmons has the injury just drives him out of round 1 for me. That doesn't mean it drives him out of round 1 for some team that feels comfortable with where he'll be at or even takes a chance just on need alone. I'll be very, very nervous if that team is the Chiefs.
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Love Dane but I would not like this draft at all

The Kansas City Chiefs Full 7 Round Mock Draft Haul from @dpbrugler on @TheAthletic

Top 3 is a great start in my book.
I would have preferred RJ Harvey, Jordan James, or Damien Martinez to Skattebo
Would have Gone Cam Williams or Mukuba to Cabeldue at 133
And changed the… pic.twitter.com/l0VEoWnZ0P
— DMac Wake (@DMacWake316) April 16, 2025

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Originally Posted by RunKC:
Love Dane but I would not like this draft at all

The Kansas City Chiefs Full 7 Round Mock Draft Haul from @dpbrugler on @TheAthletic

Top 3 is a great start in my book.
I would have preferred RJ Harvey, Jordan James, or Damien Martinez to Skattebo
Would have Gone Cam Williams or Mukuba to Cabeldue at 133
And changed the… pic.twitter.com/l0VEoWnZ0P
— DMac Wake (@DMacWake316) April 16, 2025

No thank. No thank you at all. Only pick I really like is Alfred Collins.
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Originally Posted by RunKC:
Love Dane but I would not like this draft at all

The Kansas City Chiefs Full 7 Round Mock Draft Haul from @dpbrugler on @TheAthletic

Top 3 is a great start in my book.
I would have preferred RJ Harvey, Jordan James, or Damien Martinez to Skattebo
Would have Gone Cam Williams or Mukuba to Cabeldue at 133
And changed the… pic.twitter.com/l0VEoWnZ0P
— DMac Wake (@DMacWake316) April 16, 2025

An injured OT, a contested catch WR we won't use, a 2 down run-stuffer at DT and a limited try-hard RB.

Yeah -- gross.
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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
No thank. No thank you at all. Only pick I really like is Alfred Collins.

It's the most defensible but using a top 75 pick on a guy who might be as good as Mike Pennel in a year or two doesn't feel like our style at all.

The Chiefs are convinced (and perhaps rightly so) that they can keep getting run-stuffing 0-techs either as cheap veterans or 3rd day flyers. They've seemingly had little interest in really attacking the position for years.

There's a non-zero chance that he'd end up being the Derrick Nnadi of the class -- the best pick of a draft who ends up being a quality player for awhile but who shouldn't be the most valuable pick from any draft class.

My favorite pick out of that group would be Lachey. Not sure you'd get anything out of him for at least a season, but there are some tools there and as a 7th round pick, that's worth the gamble.
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I’m glad I’m not the only one who feels that way about Alfred Collins. I much prefer his teammate Vernon Broughton who has excellent size and had 32 pressures (pressure every 18 snaps avg) and 4 sacks in his first year as a starter.
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I disagree with you guys a bit on Dane's mock. I don't love it either, to start with.

I just can't get on board with drafting Simmons, so I'll start there. I just think that's an asinine selection but I get the draw of giving KC a LT. I want one to, I just don't want THAT one.

Tre Harris is NOT a contested catch WR. He's a bit on the larger side at 6'2" 205, but he's not "too big." He actually fits what we do really well in terms of how Ole Miss used him. I just don't know if his speed and short-area quickness are enough for Reid. I could support that pick, though.

I actually like Collins quite a bit, and at that spot feel like he'd be a high-quality pick. I think there is a lot of meat on the bone yet with him in terms of getting him to produce more of a pass rush. That said, I can see wanting more juice. That's why I'm a big fan of TJ Sanders. Maybe he won't be as stout versus the run, but he's going to get after the QB more.

I don't get the Skattebo hate, honestly. Kid is tough as shit to take down and that's not going to magically change in the NFL. Sure, he's not the explosive guy we want on 3rd down, but this guy is going to be an every down starter for a team. Can't judge a football player just on 40 time.

The rest are stabs in the dark just like everyone else makes. I don't hate any of them. I love Downs but his arms are so fucking short. Wish he was a couple inches longer there. I think the OL stabs are reasonable where they are, honestly.
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The problem is that Harris isn't an early separation, short area guy either. And he's not a downfield specialist.

So I thought I was being diplomatic in calling him a 'contested catch' guy because ultimately I don't see him being particularly adept at...anything. He's just there.

I don't think I'd have him in my top 10 WRs. I just can't see why I should like him more than someone like Tory Horton or Kyle Williams. Those are 3rd and 4th round guys by most and that's about how I see Harris.

Admittedly, I can be dogmatic especially when it comes to WRs, but it's served me well more often than it hasn't. I just don't see a guy that does anything particularly well.

I think you can get away with that at a lot of positions but I just don't see it at WR. I'd take a RB with no standout traits but who does everything at a reasonably solid level. But at WR I need to see SOMETHING you do specifically well. In Harris I see a guy who's not particularly fast, not particularly physical, not particularly polished and doesn't run exceptional routes.

He's game. He's willing to put his body out there to take a hit and make a catch. He's willing to block. I guess you could argue that he doesn't look a ton different than Rice did coming out, but I just liked what I saw in Rice quite a bit more than Harris.
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