Man it’s bad. Like really bad. Really really really bad.
The Chiefs have the least explosive RB room in the NFL. Only 17 explosive plays from RB’s. Pacheco is the most explosive guy, and he’s been a good soldier here, but he’s not the guy. Excellent change of pace back, but his vision is bad and his lateral agility isn’t good either.
I love Kareem but he’s winding down. He’s 30 next year and you could see the wheels start to come off with usage.
I think we should consider a RB rd 1 if the board gets dicey, but ideally we sign someone like Ty Johnson from Buffalo. Also to preface this I think LT is numero uno for us and this is a scenario where one is just not attainable.
Everyone gets so mad at this offense and blames coaching but the pieces have just not been there. The truth is this team badly misses Jerrick McKinnon. They’ve gotten some of that from Perine but it’s just not enough.
We got 1 TD from a RB in the passing game this year. Compare that to:
2023: 7
2022: 12
2021: 5
Major major drop in production there that has killed the offense. I see these playoff teams with quality backs and it’s helped them tremendously.
Getting an explosive, dynamic playmaking RB has to be a major priority. It could change the entire offense and help soften the blow of losing Kelce (eventually) and working on LT [Reply]
So you haven't seen him play. That's understandable. There's a lot of guys I haven't seen. DJ Giddens is a guy I'm sour on. Good runner but the word is he's not great in pass pro and I'm seen some horrendous drops on tape. But he's a Kansas guy so I'm sure you've seen more games than I have (I think I watched one game of theirs last year).
I'm a VT fan and watched every game of Tutens at North Carolina A&T. To me he's what we hoped CEH would be. He's probably not a three down back but still a one cut guy with elite explosion. I wouldn't be surprised if he burst out like Chase Brown did for the Bengals last season [Reply]
If TreVeyon Henderson drops past the 1st round I'm willing to bet naked pics of billee that Veach pulls some trade magic with the 1st round pick and goes after him in the 2nd. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Otter:
If TreVeyon Henderson drops past the 1st round I'm willing to bet naked pics of billee that Veach pulls some trade magic with the 1st round pick and goes after him in the 2nd.
This is the hail marry play I’m hoping for also [Reply]
Source: Miami RB Damien Martinez is visiting the #Chiefs today and tomorrow. He has also visited the #Cowboys and #Dolphins.
A big, physical back at 6-0, 217 pounds, Martinez - who just turned 21 - averaged 6.2 YPC last season with 10 TDs and clocked a solid 4.51 40-time. pic.twitter.com/QaLuNeQ1VZ
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Fumble issues (9 the last 2 years), drop issues (9.4% drop rate), isn’t that great as a receiving back. Not that fluid there to me which is vital in this offense, elite straight line speed but not that great of lateral agility or elusiveness and his start/stop explosion is pretty average. His pro comp on NFL.com is Pacheco and that actually seems like a good comp.
Won’t knock him much for pass protection bc most of these backs need to work on that.
I think guys like Brashard Smith, Jaydon Blue, Trevor Etienne, RJ Harvey, DJ Giddens and Dylan Sampson can play his role better but that’s just my view.
Jaydon Blue has worse fumble issues, especially on a per-carry basis. I'd cross him off the list, personally.
RJ Harvey is absolutely atrocious in blitz pickup/pass block, so that might limit his 3rd down appeal for Reid. I like him a lot, overall.
I like Etienne and Sampson the most in this group. I just hope Sampson doesn't end up with constant nagging hammies, and I hope Etienne isn't as volume-limited as he was in college if one of them ends up in KC.
Brashard Smith still looks more WR than RB to me but maybe he'll continue to develop. [Reply]
That lateral agility at his size is pretty insane.
Outside of Henderson and Judkins, I think Martinez has everything they want which is why he’s going to be really high on their board. He’s extremely well rounded as a 3 down back.
Size, strength, 2nd to Jeanty is yards after contract, contact balance, pass protection potential (was reportedly excellent there at the Sr Bowl), elusive and is a good receiver.
I don’t follow Miami football so I was surprised that they lined him up at WR often. He’s got really insane lateral agility for a guy that big as you noted.
There’s a shit load of RB’s in this class and very few of them can do everything day 1. This kid is one of the few who can. [Reply]
Final thoughts and rankings on RB’s. These are ranked in order. Ideally we get 2. A 3 down well rounded back to start and a really good elusive back with speed that can be a change of pace and do screens/line up at WR some and do kickoff returns now that they are being forced to return them.
*Ashton Jeanty excluded for obvious reasons
The best TreVeyon Henderson
2nd rd
Omarion Hampton
Quinshon Judkins
Rd 3 Brashard Smith
DJ Giddens
Damien Martinez
Trevor Etienne
Rd 4
RJ Harvey
Devin Neal
Dylan Sampson
Jaydon Blue
Rd 5
Cam Skattebo
Bayshul Tuten
LeQuint Allen
Jarquez Hunter
Late rd 6 and 7
Ollie Gordon
Marcus Yarns
Jacory Croskey-Merritt
Micah Bernard
Highlighted are my favorite fits for us. Those are my top 3 and I love what they bring to this team.
Brashard Smith is my 2nd favorite option after TreVeyon Henderson. His start/stop explosion is special and reminds me of Tyreek Hill’s, he’s got good long speed, good vision and is an excellent receiving threat since he was a former WR. He’s everything we hoped Clyde would be.
Favorite late rd option is Ollie Gordon. Massive steal if he’s taken after the 5th. Was a top 100 pick last year if not for his program getting worse and literally asking him to carry the entire ****ing program on his back this year. 3 down back who lead CFB in rushing and was 2nd in rushing TD’s in 2023.
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Final thoughts and rankings on RB’s. These are ranked in order. Ideally we get 2. A 3 down well rounded back to start and a really good elusive back with speed that can be a change of pace and do screens/line up at WR some and do kickoff returns now that they are being forced to return them.
*Ashton Jeanty excluded for obvious reasons
The best TreVeyon Henderson
2nd rd
Omarion Hampton
Quinshon Judkins
Rd 3 Brashard Smith
DJ Giddens
Damien Martinez
Trevor Etienne
Rd 4
RJ Harvey
Devin Neal
Dylan Sampson
Jaydon Blue
Rd 5
Cam Skattebo
Bayshul Tuten
LeQuint Allen
Jarquez Hunter
Late rd 6 and 7
Ollie Gordon
Marcus Yarns
Jacory Croskey-Merritt
Micah Bernard
Highlighted are my favorite fits for us. Those are my top 3 and I love what they bring to this team.
Brashard Smith is my 2nd favorite option after TreVeyon Henderson. His start/stop explosion is special and reminds me of Tyreek Hill’s, he’s got good long speed, good vision and is an excellent receiving threat since he was a former WR. He’s everything we hoped Clyde would be.
Favorite late rd option is Ollie Gordon. Massive steal if he’s taken after the 5th. Was a top 100 pick last year if not for his program getting worse and literally asking him to carry the entire ****ing program on his back this year. 3 down back who lead CFB in rushing and was 2nd in rushing TD’s in 2023.
Anyway. Tear it down fellas!
Man I really like the players in the 2/3 groups. The draftubator in me doesn't want to take running back that high but the fan in me sure as hell does. [Reply]
I prefer a guy from that Explosive/3rd Down Back tier
That's surely the sexiest group. But anyone in the top half of that every down group would be okay with me. I'd be alright with the rest at the right spot. But this offense really needs an explosive runner in my opinion. [Reply]
Just picture one of Treyveon Henderson, Trevor Etienne, Bhayshul Tuten, or RJ Harvey lined up next to Mahomes in shotgun with Worthy and Rice out wide, Kelce on the line, and Hollywood in the slot.
