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Nzoner's Game Room>Devin White, not a fan of Chiefs' coaching
JakeF 09:23 AM 02-17-2021
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A message for Chiefs about Super Bowl game plan for Patrick Mahomes, offense

One word: ouch, White didn't hold back

By Patrik Walker
1 hr ago

It goes without saying the Tampa Bay Buccaneers are enjoying not only the victory itself in Super Bowl 2021 over Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs, but most certainly the spoils thereof. Take one look at linebacker Devin White and you'll immediately find evidence to that fact, having now gone from taking his Dream lap around Raymond James Stadium on his horse to grabbing a scalpel and surgically dissecting the Chiefs for a second time -- this time verbally. Never one to mince words, the All-Pro is fed up with hearing how Kansas City was at a disadvantage because they were without starting tackles Eric Fisher and Mitchell Schwartz, both sidelined by injury.

To put it plainly, White wants everyone to can those excuses, tie them to a rocket and fire them into the sun, as he so eloquently made clear in a recent interview with FS1's "Undisputed." The 23-year-old laid into head coach Andy Reid, offensive coordinator Eric Bieniemy and anyone else who had a hand in scheming protection for Mahomes.

"We knew that they was gonna be a cocky team, which they have every right to be," White said, via NFL reporter Dov Kleiman. "They [were] the No. 1 offense in the entire National Football League. But the thing is, we knew they couldn't block us. We knew that our front four was gonna dominate them.

"So they did us a favor. They played right into our hands."

How so? Well, White points out the Chiefs' refusal to send any help to the edges.

"We weren't gonna be that cocky team like, 'Hey, we're gonna play them in Cover One, we're gonna shut them down,'" he said. "Our best guys matched up on their best guys. We was gonna make it be a team, collective win on defense, and that's what we did. So at the end of the day they shouldn't even talk about not having their offensive tackles when they didn't even help them.

"They put them on islands by themselves with the best pass rushers in the game. So that's their own fault."

In looking at the film, White is telling the truth. Kansas City's plan to pretend their backups could play iso against the vicious defensive front of the Bucs was doomed from the start. Mahomes was under siege most of the evening and when he finally did break free at times, it was for naught, thanks to drops by franchise targets like tight end Travis Kelce and wide receiver Tyreek Hill -- with running back Darrel Williams getting in on the drop action as well. Mahomes was sacked three times and bullied much, much more than that would indicate, having also been hit a combined nine times in the game.

Shaq Barrett alone owned one of those sacks and four of those QB hits, with Ndamukong Suh and others also joining the party to keep Mahomes out of the end zone both on the ground and in the air. He'd finish with 23 incompletions and two interceptions on the day, and while he was able to muster 270 passing yards, White says they shouldn't go writing home to mother about that number.

"They started gaining yards when we were already up 21 points," said White."We already gave our little brothers the controllers, and they just started giving up little BS yards at the end. I know everybody praising Travis Kelce [for having] 133 yards, but a lot of that came at the end of the game when it was already over -- we're sitting back in zone and playing soft. The same for Tyreek Hill.

"... They gave him a lot of yards and it made it look like he had a decent day. We know what went on, there was a lot of toe tagging out there."
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eDave 07:39 PM 02-17-2021
NFL wanted to knock us down a peg. Too much, too soon for their liking.
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Pasta Little Brioni 07:49 PM 02-17-2021
King really thinks Brady makes his team more disciplined :-) What a pile of shit right there
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-King- 08:08 PM 02-17-2021
Originally Posted by Coochie liquor:
Then why did you pick the Chiefs to win 37-31?
Because I didn't think they'd do the smart thing and help their tackles out and not play musical chairs with the line and still run long developing plays. My bad.
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-King- 08:09 PM 02-17-2021
Originally Posted by staylor26:
:-)

Yea it wasn’t that the officiating was completely and blatantly one-sided in the 1st half. It’s because somehow Tom Brady makes his entire team more disciplined on his own!

:-)

Imagine believing this garbage. Holy shit.
What? Who said Tom Brady makes them more disciplined? Calm down and read. Just breathe a little when you read.
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staylor26 08:13 PM 02-17-2021
Originally Posted by -King-:
What? Who said Tom Brady makes them more disciplined? Calm down and read. Just breathe a little when you read.
“Tom Brady teams tend to be one of the least”

It sounds like your argument that the officiating wasn’t blatantly one-sided is that the Chiefs are undisciplined (which is a bullshit excuse as well), and Brady teams are disciplined.

What would Brady have to do with the Bucs being disciplined unless that’s what you meant?

Those things had nothing to do with the blatantly biased officiating.

Well Tom Brady being on the team might’ve, but not in the way you were implying.
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-King- 08:18 PM 02-17-2021
Originally Posted by staylor26:
“Tom Brady teams tend to be one of the least”

It sounds like your argument that the officiating wasn’t blatantly one-sided is that the Chiefs are undisciplined (which is a bullshit excuse as well), and Brady teams are disciplined.

What would Brady have to do with the Bucs being disciplined unless that’s what you meant?

Those things had nothing to do with the blatantly biased officiating.

Well Tom Brady being on the team might’ve, but not in the way you were implying.
No. I was stating a fact. The Patriots were one of the least penalized teams in the league and it seems like it carried on to the bucs. That's just a fact. I didn't say for what reason. I just said what happens.

Seriously wtf is up with you :-).
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arrwheader 08:19 PM 02-17-2021
Weeks after I stick with most of the blame falling on the coaches there was 0 creativity there and no adjustments. Then everything else fell the bucs way. Officiating, dropped passes, etc. Equal loss.

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staylor26 08:23 PM 02-17-2021
Originally Posted by -King-:
No. I was stating a fact. The Patriots were one of the least penalized teams in the league and it seems like it carried on to the bucs. That's just a fact. I didn't say for what reason. I just said what happens.

Seriously wtf is up with you :-).
Carried to the Bucs because Tom is now on the team, right?

JFC wtf us up with me? You’re telling me it’s not what you’re saying, but it’s exactly what you’re saying.

The Bucs were not any more disciplined than the Chiefs. There are countless examples including PI’s that weren’t called, holding calls that weren’t called, offsides that weren’t called, and unsportsmanlike conducts that weren’t called that show the game wasn’t called the same for both teams.

The Bucs are just more disciplined than the Chiefs being the reason for the disparity is horseshit to anybody that isn’t a fucking idiot.

Even non-Chiefs fans and people in the media saw it, but you didn’t.
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-King- 08:29 PM 02-17-2021
Originally Posted by staylor26:
Carried to the Bucs because Tom is now on the team, right?

JFC wtf us up with me? You’re telling me it’s not what you’re saying, but it’s exactly what you’re saying.

The Bucs were not any more disciplined than the Chiefs. There are countless examples including PI’s that weren’t called, holding calls that weren’t called, offsides that weren’t called, and unsportsmanlike conducts that weren’t called that show the game wasn’t called the same for both teams.

The Bucs are just more disciplined than the Chiefs being the reason for the disparity is horseshit to anybody that isn’t a fucking idiot.

Even non-Chiefs fans and people in the media saw it, but you didn’t.
Yes. It carried on to the Bucs. The reason could be because refs are corrupt and favor Brady.

I didn't give any reason. Just stated a fact. You just drank a mountain dew and came in this thread angry and wanting to start shit.
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staylor26 08:31 PM 02-17-2021
Originally Posted by -King-:
Yes. It carried on to the Bucs. The reason could be because refs are corrupt and favor Brady.

I didn't give any reason.
Just stated a fact. You just drank a mountain dew and came in this thread angry and wanting to start shit.
That’s not what you said.

You specifically used the word disciplined. That was clearly your reason. If not, you would’ve just said “Brady teams aren’t penalized often for whatever reason”.

Now you’re just backtracking because you know I’m right.
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-King- 08:33 PM 02-17-2021
Originally Posted by staylor26:
That’s not what you said.

You specifically used the word disciplined. That was clearly your reason.

Now you’re just backtracking because you know I’m right.
....no I didn't.


What the fuck again?!? :-) :-)
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alanm 08:34 PM 02-17-2021
He's 23 and stupid. What'dya want? Guess now down the road when he may be looking for a job he won't find one in KC. People won't forget comments like that and karma always ends up being a bitch.
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staylor26 08:37 PM 02-17-2021
Originally Posted by -King-:
....no I didn't.


What the fuck again?!? :-) :-)
You’re right you didn’t use the word, but it’s pretty obvious what the implication was.

You were clearly arguing against it being shady in way, so of course you were implying that the Chiefs are undisciplined as shown by their penalties, while Brady teams aren’t as shown be theirs.

Originally Posted by :
because the chiefs have been one of the most penalized teams in the league the last few years and Tom Brady teams tend to be one of the least
How else is this a logical response to the question why was there a disparity in penalties in an effort to say it wasn’t shady?
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-King- 08:46 PM 02-17-2021
Originally Posted by staylor26:
You’re right you didn’t use the word, but it’s pretty obvious what the implication was.

You were clearly arguing against it being shady in way, so of course you were implying that the Chiefs are undisciplined as shown by their penalties, while Brady teams aren’t as shown be theirs.



How else is this a logical response to the question why was there a disparity in penalties in an effort to say it wasn’t shady?
:-) :-)

Can you even follow a simple conversation? He tried to connect the officiating issues with Brett reid almost killing those kids. I simply said that that's fucked up. You can say that the refs are corrupt and want to help out Brady but to say they did it because of what Britt did to those kids is disgusting.
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staylor26 08:50 PM 02-17-2021
Originally Posted by -King-:
:-) :-)

Can you even follow a simple conversation? He tried to connect the officiating issues with Brett reid almost killing those kids. I simply said that that's fucked up. You can say that the refs are corrupt and want to help out Brady but to say they did it because of what Britt did to those kids is disgusting.
I followed it just fine.

You’ve never once agreed that the refs are crooked or biased for Brady. You’re always the guy telling everybody they’re crazy for blaming the refs.

Am I right?

You gave what you thought was a legitimate reason for the disparity. Now you’re playing stupid like always.
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