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Nzoner's Game Room>Devin White, not a fan of Chiefs' coaching
JakeF 09:23 AM 02-17-2021
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A message for Chiefs about Super Bowl game plan for Patrick Mahomes, offense

One word: ouch, White didn't hold back

By Patrik Walker
1 hr ago

It goes without saying the Tampa Bay Buccaneers are enjoying not only the victory itself in Super Bowl 2021 over Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs, but most certainly the spoils thereof. Take one look at linebacker Devin White and you'll immediately find evidence to that fact, having now gone from taking his Dream lap around Raymond James Stadium on his horse to grabbing a scalpel and surgically dissecting the Chiefs for a second time -- this time verbally. Never one to mince words, the All-Pro is fed up with hearing how Kansas City was at a disadvantage because they were without starting tackles Eric Fisher and Mitchell Schwartz, both sidelined by injury.

To put it plainly, White wants everyone to can those excuses, tie them to a rocket and fire them into the sun, as he so eloquently made clear in a recent interview with FS1's "Undisputed." The 23-year-old laid into head coach Andy Reid, offensive coordinator Eric Bieniemy and anyone else who had a hand in scheming protection for Mahomes.

"We knew that they was gonna be a cocky team, which they have every right to be," White said, via NFL reporter Dov Kleiman. "They [were] the No. 1 offense in the entire National Football League. But the thing is, we knew they couldn't block us. We knew that our front four was gonna dominate them.

"So they did us a favor. They played right into our hands."

How so? Well, White points out the Chiefs' refusal to send any help to the edges.

"We weren't gonna be that cocky team like, 'Hey, we're gonna play them in Cover One, we're gonna shut them down,'" he said. "Our best guys matched up on their best guys. We was gonna make it be a team, collective win on defense, and that's what we did. So at the end of the day they shouldn't even talk about not having their offensive tackles when they didn't even help them.

"They put them on islands by themselves with the best pass rushers in the game. So that's their own fault."

In looking at the film, White is telling the truth. Kansas City's plan to pretend their backups could play iso against the vicious defensive front of the Bucs was doomed from the start. Mahomes was under siege most of the evening and when he finally did break free at times, it was for naught, thanks to drops by franchise targets like tight end Travis Kelce and wide receiver Tyreek Hill -- with running back Darrel Williams getting in on the drop action as well. Mahomes was sacked three times and bullied much, much more than that would indicate, having also been hit a combined nine times in the game.

Shaq Barrett alone owned one of those sacks and four of those QB hits, with Ndamukong Suh and others also joining the party to keep Mahomes out of the end zone both on the ground and in the air. He'd finish with 23 incompletions and two interceptions on the day, and while he was able to muster 270 passing yards, White says they shouldn't go writing home to mother about that number.

"They started gaining yards when we were already up 21 points," said White."We already gave our little brothers the controllers, and they just started giving up little BS yards at the end. I know everybody praising Travis Kelce [for having] 133 yards, but a lot of that came at the end of the game when it was already over -- we're sitting back in zone and playing soft. The same for Tyreek Hill.

"... They gave him a lot of yards and it made it look like he had a decent day. We know what went on, there was a lot of toe tagging out there."
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FloridaMan88 09:50 AM 02-17-2021
Originally Posted by -King-:
What does that have to do with what White said. He's 100% right. We came into the SB as if we didn't have 2 backups starting at tackle.
No one is saying he's not right, but he's basically watering down their Super Bowl win by acknowledging that his team only won because of the fact the Chiefs were playing their 10th string offensive line.
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kcjayhawks5 09:51 AM 02-17-2021
Lol. Whatever man. They were gifted the Bowl and now want to talk shit like they knew all year they were going to win it and blah blah blah. It’s was the perfect storm for them
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htismaqe 09:54 AM 02-17-2021
Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88:
No one is saying he's not right, but he's basically watering down their Super Bowl win by acknowledging that his team only won because of the fact the Chiefs were playing their 10th string offensive line.
Yep.

Diminishing his own achievement. Not real bright.
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-King- 10:00 AM 02-17-2021
Originally Posted by LoneWolf:
What are you going to do? They were the number one ranked rushing defense in the NFL. You weren't going to just run it down their throats the entire game. They could have max protected and gave both tackles help and Suh/Veah would have got there up the middle and you would have had less receivers out in patterns which they were playing cover 2 most of the time anyway so one on one matchups weren't a big factor.

Could the game plan have been more conservative? Yes. Would it have made the score closer? Yes. Would KC have won the game? Doubtful.

Devin White is a real piece of shit taking a victory lap and trashing another team after they took advantage of a depleted offense.
Uh maybe don't create new problems by moving Remmers who was playing well at RT to LT and then moving Wylie to RT?
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-King- 10:02 AM 02-17-2021
Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88:
No one is saying he's not right, but he's basically watering down their Super Bowl win by acknowledging that his team only won because of the fact the Chiefs were playing their 10th string offensive line.
Saying a team played into their hands isn't watering down their win.

Their played right into our hands the first half of our first game. Doesn't diminish what our offense did.
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ChiefBlueCFC 10:03 AM 02-17-2021
Win and you get to say whatever the fuck you want.

I have all the faith in Veach, Reid, Bieniemy, and Mahomes to get fix what needs fixed and address everything that popped up in the super bowl and leading up to it.
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wachashi 10:04 AM 02-17-2021
He's being disingenuous. We couldn't block their front four - that's game over right there, and he knows it.
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notorious 10:06 AM 02-17-2021
TB wouldn't have even made the playoffs with this line.

Fail.
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OrtonsPiercedTaint 10:06 AM 02-17-2021
Drawing attention away from the team making a deal with the NFL's version of the debil. Is a slight option
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staylor26 10:07 AM 02-17-2021
Of course the contrarian faggot King is in here defending White.
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RunKC 10:09 AM 02-17-2021
It doesn’t matter. Running the ball would have helped but losses like that are game altering.

If Rankin was at LT we’d likely see a similar result. Same with Wylie at RG.

That dumb bitch can flap his mouth all he wants but if it was his team that was down 3 of 4 starting DL we would have crushed they ass
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rabblerouser 10:11 AM 02-17-2021
Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief:
He's 100% correct on the first subject. It was absurd that Reid refused to adjust when it was clear our tackles couldn't stop their edge rushers.
Sir.

Andy Reid is an offensive genius and a sure-lock HOF head coach.

If he refused to adjust (which is supposedly something he's THE BEST at), he must've had a good reason.

Like he was told not to or something...

This isn't the first time Andy Reid has screwed the pooch by making decisions that 5th grader learns not to make while playing Madden. Situational football, down to ONE starting Olineman, Tackles who aren't actually tackles, and I'm sitting here like "you know if you kept the backs in to help block, maybe Mahomes won't have a bunch of Tampa Gay dick in his ass..."

Reid and Beniemy played into Bowles' hands because that's what they were supposed to do. That's what the script said...
Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief:
The second matter, he's full of crap. The only reason Kelce was remotely slowed down is because they were allowed to god damn moleste him all game.
Their DBs molested all of our WRs/TEs all game without flags, their Oline completely mugged our Dline, again without flags...funny how he wouldn't mention that...or how Suh punched Mahomes in the face without a penalty or Brady pushing his finger in Honey Badger's face without penalty...

So, yeah...
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FloridaMan88 10:15 AM 02-17-2021
Originally Posted by -King-:
Saying a team played into their hands isn't watering down their win.

Their played right into our hands the first half of our first game. Doesn't diminish what our offense did.
"Playing into their hands" by playing with a 10th string offensive line.

Hilariously stupid.
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chiefzilla1501 10:16 AM 02-17-2021
Originally Posted by rabblerouser:
Sir.

Andy Reid is an offensive genius and a sure-lock HOF head coach.

If he refused to adjust (which is supposedly something he's THE BEST at), he must've had a good reason.

Like he was told not to or something...

This isn't the first time Andy Reid has screwed the pooch by making decisions that 5th grader learns not to make while playing Madden. Situational football, down to ONE starting Olineman, Tackles who aren't actually tackles, and I'm sitting here like "you know if you kept the backs in to help block, maybe Mahomes won't have a bunch of Tampa Gay dick in his ass..."

Reid and Beniemy played into Bowles' hands because that's what they were supposed to do. That's what the script said...


Their DBs molested all of our WRs/TEs all game without flags, their Oline completely mugged our Dline, again without flags...funny how he wouldn't mention that...or how Suh punched Mahomes in the face without a penalty or Brady pushing his finger in Honey Badger's face without penalty...

So, yeah...
I don't think it was cockiness. But it did feel like Reid was distracted. The surprise was we didn't do much in the way of adjustment. But you're right, sometimes you just can't scheme around gaps if you're OL is flat out outmatched. It reminds me of the time vermeil used to scheme a brilliant first quarter offense with Jordan black which worked until the defense adjusted. While Im surprised we didn't stretch horizontally with jet sweeps etc... We did try to run and wr screen with almost no success.
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-King- 10:23 AM 02-17-2021
Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88:
"Playing into their hands" by playing with a 10th string offensive line.

Hilariously stupid.
By moving Remmers from a position he was playing well to LT.

By doing that both sides were major weaknesses. We could have kept Remmers at RT, Wylie at LG and then used someone else at LT and doubled that up. Instead we compounded the backup issue by moving everyone around.
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