If there had been a full meltdown of the core without any containment vessel breach it wouldn't have been any big deal at all. Meltdown is not the key word here. And the water released in the ocean is a meaningless amount.
As an aside, as Donger is always loath to do, radiation is with us everyday. There is a background amount of radiation from radon, watchfaces, the sun and hundreds of other sources. There is no escape and in background levels its generally harmless. The added radiation from Japan is below detectable levels here. There are trace amounts of Strontium 90 everywhere. This event added very little to the Strontium 90 on the surface of the earth. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Donger:
Yes, that's correct. There are in process of cleaning up the radioactive water, however.
THEY'RE.
Fucking...strangle you.
Originally Posted by Donger:
Reactors, not plants.
Yes, I meant plants.
The things that house reactors.
A breach does not mean a meltdown, it means a leak of radioactivity...
Originally Posted by Donger:
They were cautious about using the word "meltdown" for good reason: 1) It might have created panic. 2) They weren't positive that a melt(s) had taken place. 3) "Meltdown" means different things to different people. The core can technically melt with no breach of the PV, a melt with a slight breach of the PV (what happened at Fukushima), or a melt with a massive breach of the PV (Chernoybl).
I'm sure our government would be "cautious" as well... [Reply]
A breach does not mean a meltdown, it means a leak of radioactivity...
You may have meant that, but that is wrong. There are multiple reactors at that one plant. Each reactor is surrounded by a pressure vessel that is surrounded by a containment vessel and then a structure. There were melts of the cores in at least three of the reactors at the plant. There were also breaches in some of the PVs, resulting in the release of radiation.
Originally Posted by Rausch:
I'm sure our government would be "cautious" as well...
Probably, but our government isn't the only outfit that measures radiation here. Numerous universities also do so. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Dave Lane:
If there had been a full meltdown of the core without any containment vessel breach it wouldn't have been any big deal at all. Meltdown is not the key word here. And the water released in the ocean is a meaningless amount.
As an aside, as Donger is always loath to do, radiation is with us everyday. There is a background amount of radiation from radon, watchfaces, the sun and hundreds of other sources. There is no escape and in background levels its generally harmless. The added radiation from Japan is below detectable levels here. There are trace amounts of Strontium 90 everywhere. This event added very little to the Strontium 90 on the surface of the earth.
Originally Posted by Donger: :-). Sorry for the error.
You argue the particulars of nuclear physics and fuck up basic grammar.
Ok, now you see how It feels.
Insert picture of sympathetic asian guy here because fat and drunken Germans don't really garner much sympathy...
Originally Posted by Donger:
You may have meant that, but that is wrong. There are multiple reactors at that one plant. Each reactor is surrounded by a pressure vessel that is surrounded by a containment vessel and then a structure. There were melts of the cores in at least three of the reactors at the plant. There were also breaches in some of the PVs, resulting in the release of radiation.
There are 5 nuclear plants in Japan that I know of and 3 reported damage. Only the the one in (fukishima?) garnered headlines... [Reply]
Originally Posted by Rausch:
You argue the particulars of nuclear physics and **** up basic grammar.
Ok, now you see how It feels.
Insert picture of sympathetic asian guy here because fat and drunken Germans don't really garner much sympathy...
It wasn't a grammar error. I just typed the wrong word.
Originally Posted by Rausch:
There are 5 nuclear plants in Japan that I know of and 3 reported damage. Only the the one in (fukishima?) garnered headlines...
To the best of my knowledge, none of the other plants experienced any radiation leaks. [Reply]