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Saccopoo Memorial Draft Forum>Let's talk Wide Receivers
Titty Meat 10:42 PM 01-13-2023
It's fucking DEEP. Off the top of my head first round potential guys:

Jalin Hyatt Tenny
Cedric Tillman Tenny
Jonathan Mingo
Quentin Johnston TCU
Jaxon Smith-Njigba Ohio State
Kayshon Boutte LSU
Jordan Addison USC
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Titty Meat 02:39 AM 02-25-2023
Originally Posted by OKchiefs:
You really think KC took a WR in the 2nd round with the expectation that he’d put up 250 scoreless yards?
Yes traditionally rookie WRs aren't very productive under Reid with the exception of Jackson/Maclin. Moore on paper wasn't even a center piece of the offense. To write him off year 1 is ridiculous
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Couch-Potato 05:29 AM 02-25-2023
Originally Posted by OKchiefs:
You really think KC took a WR in the 2nd round with the expectation that he’d put up 250 scoreless yards?
I think the expectation was that he'd learn the offense and gain some experience, but I agree with the sentiment that they probably expected a bit more production from him.
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Chris Meck 06:53 AM 02-25-2023
Originally Posted by Couch-Potato:
I think the expectation was that he'd learn the offense and gain some experience, but I agree with the sentiment that they probably expected a bit more production from him.
the kid literally had 4 veterans ahead of him.
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OKchiefs 08:21 AM 02-25-2023
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
the kid literally had 4 veterans ahead of him.
4 veterans who almost all missed time with injury. Hardman missed half the year, Toney missed a few games, Juju missed some time here or there. In the AFCCG we were down almost the entire depth chart at WR. Those are the moments when a 2nd round draft pick should probably step up.

Well, zero excuses next year. Few veterans ahead of him, expectation should be 800 yards and 5 TDs minimum.
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kozzman555 01:09 PM 02-25-2023
I think we're being a little harsh on Skyy, NFL transition is generally difficult, doubly so for Andy Reid's offense. It's not like Skyy was just asked to do go routes and was productive that way. That isn't his game, he needs to ACTUALLY learn the offense, plays, schemes, watching film, and everything that goes in to being a good WR in this offense. How many receivers period come in and dominate their rookie yearand weren't deep threat burners? Let's at least give him until the end of next season before we start writing him off as a loss.
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Hog's Gone Fishin 02:52 PM 02-25-2023
I'm so fucking glad we picked up Toney. That gives us a legit playmaker in the room and he loves it here .
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Chris Meck 10:18 AM 02-26-2023
Originally Posted by OKchiefs:
4 veterans who almost all missed time with injury. Hardman missed half the year, Toney missed a few games, Juju missed some time here or there. In the AFCCG we were down almost the entire depth chart at WR. Those are the moments when a 2nd round draft pick should probably step up.

Well, zero excuses next year. Few veterans ahead of him, expectation should be 800 yards and 5 TDs minimum.
Well, until the AFCCG, we generally had 3 of the 4 available, and we don't run much 4 wide because we have the GOAT TE.

Just as I said to pump the brakes on the pre-season "Skyy Moore is going to be a #1 as a rookie!" talk, I'm saying pump the brakes on the "Skyy Moore is a bust!" talk. There's absolutely no reason to assume we've seen anywhere near what the kid can do.

I fully expect that we do NOT do anything big in FA at WR, and that Moore is penciled in to have a bigger role in '23. I'm damned near certain of it.
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Couch-Potato 11:28 AM 02-26-2023
Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin:
I'm so ****ing glad we picked up Toney. That gives us a legit playmaker in the room and he loves it here .
So I think there's an interesting comparison highlighted in this thread regarding our fanship's perception of WR K Toney and S Moore's production this year. Everyone seems really high on Toney's ability, but he's never played a full season and Moore had higher production this year.

Toney 2022 = 7 GP, 14/17 TGTS, 171 YDS, 12.2 AVG, 2 TDS, 38 LNG

Moore 2022 = 16 GP, 22/33 TGTS, 250 YDS, 11.4 AVG, 0 TDS, 20 LNG
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The Franchise 11:32 AM 02-26-2023
“Why didn’t Moore have better production!?”

Ignores the fact that he was basically 5th option on this offense and he came from a small school. Players take time to adjust to the speed of the NFL.
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Couch-Potato 09:11 AM 02-27-2023
Ok, so let's say JuJu walks and we have to bring in an aging, oft-injured vet on a 1yr prove-it deal... Do you prefer Michael Thomas or OBJ?
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duncan_idaho 09:37 AM 02-27-2023
Originally Posted by Couch-Potato:
Ok, so let's say JuJu walks and we have to bring in an aging, oft-injured vet on a 1yr prove-it deal... Do you prefer Michael Thomas or OBJ?
I'll take curtain number 3. I don't really care what's behind curtain number 3.

Thomas is finished. Beckham is a walking injury report and wants to be paid like he isn't.
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O.city 09:39 AM 02-27-2023
I'd take Thomas for half of what JJSS was paid.
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DJ's left nut 09:44 AM 02-27-2023
Originally Posted by Couch-Potato:
Adding Justin Shorter, 6-4 225 lbs 4.4 speed to the list as a late round target: https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/...ter-WR-Florida
Yeah, he's an interesting one. But I wonder if there isn't some Chris Conley to his game. He just doesn't seem terribly sudden.

But I just have a bit of a bias against bigger WRs so I may not be being fair there.

As a long-term developmental guy who could potentially replace MVS by 2024, you could do worse than use a 4th rounder on him.
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Couch-Potato 09:48 AM 02-27-2023
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
I'll take curtain number 3. I don't really care what's behind curtain number 3.

Thomas is finished. Beckham is a walking injury report and wants to be paid like he isn't.
lol that's what makes it a fun game Duncan
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JPH83 10:31 AM 02-27-2023
Originally Posted by O.city:
I'd take Thomas for half of what JJSS was paid.
Duncan's probably right, but I do wonder just how low he might go. Gotta think he'd see this as as good a springboard as anywhere to a final decent deal somewhere. 1yr flier at a SUPER discount and I might be tempted. Highly doubt OBJ or JJSS will be at a price we like.
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