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gblowfish 03:11 PM 12-17-2018
My old pal Steve in Chicago is a big baseball fantasy geek, and is a lifelong Cubs fan. He's sort of adopted the Royals as his AL team, because he despises the White Sox, and he sees the Royals on Chicago TV every time we play them.

He follows a Baseball Fantasy Guru guy named Joe Sheehan. This was published today on his evaluation of the Royals going into 2019:

The Royals have moved into the ionization blackout period, during which they will attempt to build a good team from the ground up in near-total anonymity, probably losing at least 90 games in both 2019 and 2020. The first season after their championship window closed was ugly, as the team slipped to 58-104 on the field and saw all of its attendance gains from the 2015 title disappear.

That Was Fast

2013 1.75M
2014 1.96M
2015 2.71M
2016 2.56M
2017 2.22M
2018 1.67M

People in the area are still watching the games on television, which bodes well for the team’s ability to keep their coffers filled with a new local-TV deal, hopefully upgrading from what Sam Mellinger described as “widely believed to be one of the worst for a team in major professional sports.” Kansas City is ranked #32 in market size, making the Royals a legitimate small-market team. Their regional appeal was helped by the championship, but they remain behind the Cardinals and even the Cubs for popularity through the Midwest.

I’ve been hard on the Royals over the years, turned off by the way an oligarch who competed viciously to turn Wal-Mart into a global behemoth, bankrupting smaller competitors along the way, became the worst sort of welfare queen when it came to baseball. I remain insistent that David Glass and his ilk should have their significant personal fortunes, the prestige value of owning a baseball team, the subsidies paid by the cities and states in which they play, and the inevitable rise in franchise value all be part of any conversation about what they can “afford.”

With that said, there are real small-market teams in MLB, and the chart above shows that those fans are as fickle as any others. The additional ticket sales created by the Royals’ championship run took just three years to wash out, and they won’t return until the team is good again. For now, the Royals will live off their cut of the considerable baseball revenues generated by their partners until they can get the locals excited again.

In having these conversations over the years, I’ve come across the idea that rooting for a small-market team is somehow more pure than rooting for the Yankees or Dodgers or Cubs. The truth is, fans are pretty much the same everywhere. There’s a core who will be with a team thick and thin, and then a much larger group you can reach if you do well on the field. Both groups are larger in bigger cities, but the idea that fans of the Royals or Brewers or whomever are entitled to seeing their teams subsidized by the league because they’re somehow better fans is belied by the chart above.

Maybe, three years past Eric Hosmer’s dash to the plate, a lot of kids are being Raised Royal, but their moms and dads spent the summer Supporting Sporting.

The fans who do show up at Kauffman Stadium next year are unlikely to see a winning team, but the signing of Billy Hamilton will make it a touch easier to watch. Hamilton has been overmatched at the plate in MLB, with a .299 OBP over his five-year career that has been unchanged the past two seasons. Once he drops the bat, however, Hamilton is still as watchable a player as there is in baseball. He’s still one of the fastest men in the game, a plus defensive center fielder and exciting basestealer.

I want baseball to be a game where the likes of Hamilton can be stars, not because of any inherent value to the type, but because baseball is better when a variety of player and team archetypes can lead to success. For most of its history, and surely during the time I came to love it, baseball was a game where both strength and speed were rewarded.

One of the most visible ways in which power pitching has changed the game is that it has overpowered the Hamilton class. There’s a high minimum strength standard now, and if you don’t reach it, you can’t play. Billy Hamilton doesn’t have a career .245 batting average because he’s obstinate but, rather, because you can’t beat modern pitching by “just slapping the ball and running.” The game that Willie Wilson could play 40 years ago, that Otis Nixon could play 30 years ago, that Ichiro Suzuki and Juan Pierre could play even a decade ago, is gone. (The Larry Bowa/Freddy Galvis comparison within this piece also makes the point.)

Billy Hamilton’s career is just another thing we’ve lost to pitchers becoming witches. Everything comes back to velocity. Everything.

Anyway, Hamilton adds to the Royals’ collection of very good basestealers. The Royals will lead the AL in steals next year, and there’s some chance they’ll have the three highest individual totals in the league with Hamilton, Whit Merrifield, and Adalberto Mondesi. They won’t win, but they’ll be entertaining.

2B-R Merrifield
SS-B Mondesi
LF-L Gordon
DH-R Soler
1B-L O’Hearn
C-R Perez
RF-L Phillips
3B-R Dozier
CF-B Hamilton

The Central teams generally get short shrift in my baseball watching not out of bias, but game times. Bad teams get short shrift for what should be obvious reasons. So the 2019 Royals project to be down on the list of teams I see, and yet...I’m kind of interested? What if a team just decided to try to steal 300 bases? This group probably can’t get enough baserunners to pull that off, but it would at least be a hook, like Savannah State going Loyola Marymount-on-uppers in its final year in Division I.

If Brett Phillips plays, which isn’t a certainty, this is one of the best defensive outfields in baseball, too.

Bench-R Cuthbert (IF)
Bench-R Owings (UT)
Bench-B Herrera (OF)
Bench-R Gallagher (C)

There was a time when Chris Owings was one of the fastest players in baseball, too, so sure, let’s just collect them all.

SP-R Keller
SP-L Duffy
SP-R Kennedy
SP-R Junis
SP-R Lopez

As with the lineup, this isn’t an unattractive rotation, even if Brad Keller is due for some significant sophomore year regression. Danny Duffy’s window for stardom has closed; he’s 30 and has never reached 30 starts or 180 innings in a season, and the stuff that made him a constant target for trade rumors has taken a step backwards. The Royals need to treat him the way the Rays treated Nathan Eovaldi, trying to turn any stretch of health and effectiveness into a trade.

The Royals have very little behind this group, and no reason to invest in making their backup rotation much better.

RP-R W. Peralta
RP-R McCarthy
RP-L Hill
RP-L Flynn
RP-R McWilliams
RP-R Fillmyer
RP-L Skoglund

The Royals took Rays righty Sam McWilliams with the second pick in the Rule 5 draft. After the success they had with Keller, a Rule 5 pick in 2017, the Royals have every reason to go back to the well. I’ve listed him in the bullpen, where Keller started last season, but he’s been a starter throughout his five-year pro career. Add Chris Ellis, the seventh pick in the Rule 5 draft, to this mix as well -- the Royals traded for him from the Rangers after the draft.

Last year, the Reds were my pick for the game’s most watchable bad team. The Reds should be better this year, but even if they’re not, the Royals will take away their title. With the speed and defense on the field, with interesting pitchers like Jake Junis and Jorge Lopez, the Royals are a notch above the truly dreadful teams, even if their record may not reflect it.
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Coach 10:10 PM 01-04-2019
Originally Posted by OKchiefs:
I of course don't expect this, but we could really use some luck. Zimmer actually surprising us and finally providing some value would be huge.
Yeah, I wouldn't put any bets on that actually occurring. Zimmer is glass.
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tk13 10:39 PM 01-04-2019
I was a fan of Cuthbert but he had trouble staying healthy obviously. I feel like with reps he had talent to grow. I guess this pretty much means Dozier is the guy at 3B, or they're looking to sign someone else.

They must have really liked what they saw from Zimmer. He spent time working with Driveline Baseball, a training center in Seattle. This is a lot of info but they have a different way of rehabbing guys. Trevor Bauer of the Indians is a big client of theirs. There's a video in here of Zimmer doing one of their drills.

https://www.drivelinebaseball.com/20...ball-pitchers/
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dallaschiefsfan 08:11 AM 01-05-2019
I'm bullish on Zimmer's prospects if they liked what they saw via driveline. I recall Flanagan doing an update (can't recall if it was radio or TV) and when seeming to be candid, he said that he actually thinks Zimmer might have actually turned a corner. Too much talent to leave on the table if that's true. The Royals have made some of these reclamation projects work, it would be a shame if they didn't take a final flyer on one of their own. He could be a weapon at the back end of the bullpen if he can put it together.

RE: Cuthbert, they must really be down on him to release him over a host of other guys. It will be interesting to see if they make an attempt to re-sign him to a minor league contract. Perhaps they just like Gutierrez more and think he's close to being an option alongside Dozier. This also makes sense of the comments about Moore looking for another "bargain" infielder on the open market.
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tk13 09:55 AM 01-05-2019
Originally Posted by dallaschiefsfan:
I'm bullish on Zimmer's prospects if they liked what they saw via driveline. I recall Flanagan doing an update (can't recall if it was radio or TV) and when seeming to be candid, he said that he actually thinks Zimmer might have actually turned a corner. Too much talent to leave on the table if that's true. The Royals have made some of these reclamation projects work, it would be a shame if they didn't take a final flyer on one of their own. He could be a weapon at the back end of the bullpen if he can put it together.

RE: Cuthbert, they must really be down on him to release him over a host of other guys. It will be interesting to see if they make an attempt to re-sign him to a minor league contract. Perhaps they just like Gutierrez more and think he's close to being an option alongside Dozier. This also makes sense of the comments about Moore looking for another "bargain" infielder on the open market.
I think they pretty much have to sign someone. Not only because of Dozier, but because of 1B too. If either him or O'Hearn regress badly, or just get hurt, they're going to have a huge hole in the lineup. Gutierrez might be an option but I imagine they'd start him in the minors and continue to let him improve.
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dallaschiefsfan 10:25 AM 01-05-2019
Originally Posted by tk13:
I think they pretty much have to sign someone. Not only because of Dozier, but because of 1B too. If either him or O'Hearn regress badly, or just get hurt, they're going to have a huge hole in the lineup. Gutierrez might be an option but I imagine they'd start him in the minors and continue to let him improve.
Yeah...and we really need a sometimes-platoon at 1B due to O'Hearn's typical splits. It will help him continue to succeed at the MLB level to have him sit against half of the lefties we face. Let him mash the right handed pitching and continue work off of last year' s successes. Another right handed corner infielder seems likely. Here comes Esky. I kid...sorta.

All in all, this tells me that they also plan on playing Owings quite a bit this year. Not sure whether he or Whit would play 3B more, but one of them might be getting a decent amount of reps there, depending on how Dozier fares.
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Oxford 10:59 AM 01-05-2019
I really don't think they want to move Dozier around. I think they like him at 3rd and would prefer just to leave him there. He really seems to have marginal defensive value in RF or 1B.

First base types for platoon? Schwindel at Omaha is a possibility, RH bat -- Major League minimum guy, probably not much left to prove at AAA. There should be any number of RH 1B candidates on waivers or unsigned FA's.

As far as Bonifacio is concerned, his PED suspension means he has to earn his way back to the majors, so he goes to Omaha along with Gore and Starling. Gordon-Hamilton-Philips/Goodwin with Soler as the DH until Hamilton is flipped. At Omaha Starling and Bonifacio must play to establish a baseline of performance and alleviate health concerns.

Possibilities for the Royals to trade at the deadline
Hamilton, Gore, Bonifacio, Owings, Soler, Duffy, Kennedy, Peralta

After deadline or September call ups
Nicky Lopez (2b of the future)
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Oxford 01-05-2019, 11:16 AM
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keg in kc 11:19 AM 01-05-2019
My outlook is that much like last year I probably won't even watch a single game's worth of innings in 2019, what with the going to bed at 8 every night mixed with losing so many games.
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Chris Meck 02:58 PM 01-05-2019
I think this team will be a lot of fun to watch-run, run, run Royals.

IF O'Hearn is for real, and Dozier can pick up where he left off, and IF the bullpen is improved, this might well be a .500ish team playing games that matter into September. I'll take that.
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Al Bundy 04:44 PM 01-16-2019

Royals pitcher Eric Skoglund has been suspended after testing positive for performing enhancing drugs. https://t.co/DToGICsABI

— FOX 4 Sports (@fox4sports) January 16, 2019


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Chris Meck 05:53 PM 01-16-2019
Originally Posted by Al Bundy:

Oh man. What the fuck?

So stupid.
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'Hamas' Jenkins 06:15 PM 01-16-2019
Proof that PEDs don't make everyone MLB-worthy.
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srvy 07:09 PM 01-16-2019
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins:
Proof that PEDs don't make everyone MLB-worthy.
Or maybe it does as he made it to a major league roster.
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ILChief 07:18 PM 01-16-2019
Bullpen sucks but i think they'll be better than people think. I think.500 or a little under
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suzzer99 05:27 PM 02-05-2019
All the baseball-related final jeopardy questions: https://www.sporcle.com/games/jfrank...final-jeopardy

I got 33, should have been 34 except for dumb spelling.
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dlphg9 05:40 PM 02-05-2019
Originally Posted by OKchiefs:
I of course don't expect this, but we could really use some luck. Zimmer actually surprising us and finally providing some value would be huge.
Thatd be fucking amazing if Zimmer amounted to anything. Id start his ass out in the majors until he inevitably gets a phantom injury and is out for the season. Juat get whatever you can from him.
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