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DaFace 11:23 AM 06-27-2016
A place to talk about investing stuff.
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Halfcan 05:06 PM 02-28-2017
Originally Posted by Halfcan:
UBQU

Best MJ stock I have found lately- they are actually making money. All of their products are legal in all 50 states.
Anyone that would have bought after I posted this would have made a quick 20% profit.
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ChiliConCarnage 06:20 PM 02-28-2017
Originally Posted by kepp:
What about an ordinary trading account? Obviously the contributions are post-tax. Do you get taxed on the growth every year?
Not necessarily. You gain the tax benefit or cost when you realize the gain or loss by selling. If you buy Amazon tomorrow, and it's up $150 at year end, you don't owe anything on that unless you sell.

You'd owe on any dividends possibly that get paid out through the year. Qualified dividends are typically at long term cap gains rates
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lewdog 06:33 PM 02-28-2017
Originally Posted by Halfcan:
UBQU

Best MJ stock I have found lately- they are actually making money. All of their products are legal in all 50 states.
Interesting. I want to lay down a small amount of money in some marijuana stock relatively soon. Nothing crazy and money I'm ok losing.

UBQU which is trading at $.02 a share?
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Buehler445 07:58 PM 02-28-2017
Originally Posted by DaFace:
You do get taxed on growth in a standard brokerage account, but the tax rate on that growth is less than your normal income tax rate.
Not necessarily. If you've owned the stock less than a year, it is ordinary income. Looks like dividends are taxed the same.

Pretty good breakdown here.

https://www.fool.com/retirement/2016...-for-2017.aspx
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Amnorix 08:33 AM 03-01-2017
Originally Posted by kepp:
So for a 401k, the contributions are pre-tax, but you get taxed when you take distributions...and for a Roth IRA, the contributions are post-tax but you are not taxed on the growth at all as long as you take qualified distributions?
Yes, that is correct. To differentiate between the two, the first type is typically called a "traditional" IRA versus the Roth IRA.

Originally Posted by :
What about an ordinary trading account? Obviously the contributions are post-tax. Do you get taxed on the growth every year?

An ordinary brokerage account will generate (1) capital gains on sales of stock or mutual funds or whatever, if any are sold, and (2) dividend income.

Capital gains can either be long term or short term. Long term capital gains are gains on securities sold after you've held hte stock for at least one year. They are typically taxed at 15%, but very high earners can see a rate of 20% on cap gains I believe. Short term capital gains are gains on securities held for one year or less, and are taxed at ordinary income.

Your ordinary income tax rate will very typically be higher than the capital gain rate. Go here to see what the highest marginal rate looks like under various scenarios.

https://taxfoundation.org/2017-tax-brackets/

(note: 2017 income tax rates subject to change based on changes in law by the new Congress/Administration, so YMMV).


Dividends also come in two flavors, qualified and not qualified. Most dividends are qualified, and are taxed at capital gains rates. Non-qualified dividends are taxed at ordinary income rates.
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Amnorix 08:34 AM 03-01-2017
Originally Posted by Buehler445:
Not necessarily. If you've owned the stock less than a year, it is ordinary income. Looks like dividends are taxed the same.

Pretty good breakdown here.

https://www.fool.com/retirement/2016...-for-2017.aspx


I really should've read through the thread before replying. :-)
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Halfcan 09:43 AM 03-01-2017
Originally Posted by lewdog:
Interesting. I want to lay down a small amount of money in some marijuana stock relatively soon. Nothing crazy and money I'm ok losing.

UBQU which is trading at $.02 a share?
Yes, it was pushed down last week by the MM's but it bounced big yesterday.

Lots of good DD on this site.

http://investorshub.advfn.com/UBIQUI...RP-UBQU-26288/

Here is their website.

https://hemplifetoday.com/lp/

They are changing their name soon to Endo Bioscience. CBD products are getting huge and they are one of the best new companies out there. They have a new product coming out Friday and increasing sales. Legal in all 50 States.

It might be another Owcp success story- at least I hope so.
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scho63 11:26 AM 03-01-2017
BLASTED THROUGH 21,000 LIKE IT WASN'T EVEN THERE!

GET ON THE TRUMP TRAIN! ALL ABOARD!

WINNING!
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kepp 02:01 PM 03-01-2017
Originally Posted by Halfcan:
Yes, it was pushed down last week by the MM's but it bounced big yesterday.

Lots of good DD on this site.

http://investorshub.advfn.com/UBIQUI...RP-UBQU-26288/

Here is their website.

https://hemplifetoday.com/lp/

They are changing their name soon to Endo Bioscience. CBD products are getting huge and they are one of the best new companies out there. They have a new product coming out Friday and increasing sales. Legal in all 50 States.

It might be another Owcp success story- at least I hope so.
So this isn't cannabis? Just wondering because the Trump administration said they were going to enforce the federal cannabis laws more strictly.
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Halfcan 05:17 PM 03-01-2017
Originally Posted by kepp:
So this isn't cannabis? Just wondering because the Trump administration said they were going to enforce the federal cannabis laws more strictly.
Cannabidiol is one of at least 113 active cannabinoids identified in cannabis. It is a major phytocannabinoid, accounting for up to 40% of the plant's extract. CBD is considered to have a wide scope of potential medical applications due to clinical reports showing the lack of side effects, particularly a lack of psychoactivity, and non-interference with several psychomotor learning and psychological functions.

Legal in all 50 States.
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lewdog 06:31 PM 03-01-2017
TD Ameritrade to lower trading fees! From $9.99 to $6.95.

http://www.amtd.com/newsroom/press-r...s/default.aspx
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kepp 09:03 AM 03-02-2017
Originally Posted by lewdog:
TD Ameritrade to lower trading fees! From $9.99 to $6.95.

http://www.amtd.com/newsroom/press-r...s/default.aspx
Thanks for the heads-up. I was leaning towards Charles Schwab instead of TD Ameritrade because of the $9.99 vs. $6.95 difference.
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ChiliConCarnage 09:12 AM 03-02-2017
Originally Posted by kepp:
Thanks for the heads-up. I was leaning towards Charles Schwab instead of TD Ameritrade because of the $9.99 vs. $6.95 difference.
Schwab just lowered to 4.95 to match Fidelity. Price wars
When competition actually works it's pretty nice :-)

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Charles Schwab announced Tuesday that it will lower its online trade commissions for U.S. stocks and ETFs to $4.95. Almost four weeks ago, the firm lowered its trading fees to $6.95 from $8.95.

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Demonpenz 11:51 AM 03-02-2017
Originally Posted by Halfcan:
Your best bet would be to have them set you up a Roth IRA. Put in what you can afford right now- and then start maxing it out when you can.
That's what I did. I have 10 percent coming out of my check for 401k at work, but I wanted a little different look at things.
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Halfcan 12:14 PM 03-02-2017
Originally Posted by Demonpenz:
That's what I did. I have 10 percent coming out of my check for 401k at work, but I wanted a little different look at things.
That sounds like a solid plan. You will be very comfortable at retirement age.

Make sure you say hi to me when I am 90 and still working as a Walmart greeter. Sucks when you lose half your retirement in a divorce- it takes a lot of years to get it back.
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