Originally Posted by Superturtle: :-) Holy shit. The fact that Clay has been pulling these shenanigans for almost a literal quarter century and still gets the responses he does is astounding. Well done, sir.
Originally Posted by Detoxing:
I watched more Pacheco last night. This time i watched it under the assumption that what i was watching was real and would transfer to the NFL.
If that is in fact the case, then all i can say is....:-):-):-):-)
Imagine, the narratives all offseason:
"Can the Chiefs offenses succeed w/o Tyreek Hill?"
"What will the new receiver corps look like?"
"What will the Chiefs do about all this new AFCW talent?"
"Who'll play on the DL?"
"How will the youthful secondary look?"
......and then the Chiefs come out with a dominate running game, completely out the ****ing blue and start pushing teams' shit with a dominant OL and a premier RB to add to Mahomes' arsenal.
BWAHAHAHA.
That WOULD be some Chiefs shit. And it's not out of the realm of possibility either.
Jesus. Wait until the "Herp Derp Andy No Run Ball" crowd get hold of this.
It's almost like Kareem Hunt got the rushing title here without running the ball. [Reply]
Seems like Mahomes is the only franchise-caliber QB who plays in preseason games.
I would be okay if this didn’t continue.
Patrick Mahomes on what he wants to get out of Saturday's game against the Bears: "I like to get in there and get hit one time. Once you get hit one time and kind of see what it is to get hit again as a quarterback, you’re kind of good to go.''
Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks:
He might be the one guy I'm most looking forward to watching in these preseason games.
If Rhett somehow pulled a 7th-round diamond out of his ass with a 215 lb 4.37 RB who can actually play, then just go ahead and give Mr. Bleach a lifetime GM contract and partial team ownership.
It just feels like the Chiefs thing to do.
I can already hear the haters and national pundits, "Where the hell do the Chiefs keep finding these guys??"
Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar:
The RB room must be a lot better than most expected if there's a good chance that they drop Ronald Jones.
Jones is the one RB that can’t catch well or be a valuable weapon in the pass game.
Originally Posted by TwistedChief:
I'm not entirely sure I buy that. I do think their thought process when they traded down to 54 was that they'd probably be able to get Cook there and still get one of the WRs they liked at 62, but I think you could've replaced Moore with Pickens or Pierce in that interview and it may have sounded the same.
I just don't see how they could've had confidence they'd be able to get Moore in particular at that point unless they knew the Pats, Colts, and Steelers favored their guys over him.
But I do think they felt there were quality receivers to be had.
I think they wanted Pickens and knew Skyy was a Pittsburgh fan and that they needed a WR and that would cause George to fall to us, but that’s just my worthless opinion. [Reply]
Aren't YOU the charter member of the "Herp Derp Andy No Run Ball" club?
I'll answer for you - yes, you are.
Originally Posted by Wallcrawler:
As the white knight of this thread already stated, you aren't going to change anyones mind.
DJs left nut contends that Andys failure to run the ball over several YEARS with his best backs (yes, efdectively stopping his own rushing attack) was all just fine, because rushing the ball doesnt tire out defenses, and throwing it all the time puts more pressure on them.
So every time we lost a game because Andy gave Jamaal 7 carries the whole game, well thats all fine, because passing is so much better, and really we only run the ball because we are winning, we don't run it to win, even though we've had all world backs on the team. Andy didnt screw up by ignoring these players, no.no. no. He was putting more pressure on the d by gameplanning his all world back out of the games.
Going away from Kareem Hunt. Totally fine. Rushing the football is EASIER on the defense. Yes. They would rather get pounded all day by a physical rb than rush the passer and defend passes all day.
This dudes head is so far up his own ass that the lump In his throat is his nose.
I'd advise no further engagement, lest we have to suffer another post of him sniffing his own farts and explaining how willfully informed he is due to his immense intellectual curiosities, and begin rambling on about fucking crosses we have to bear.
I'll just re-post my response to your idiocy last time you barked up this particularly idiotic tree:
Spoiler!
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Yeah, you're probably right.
Dude's teams are in the top 10 in points scored 2/3 of the seasons he's coached in this league, but you probably know more about running an offense than him. And hey, guy also has FREQUENTLY had a top 10 running game (and almost always top 10 in terms of rush efficiency), but you're right - he's just constantly getting away from it.
Guy's had 5 seasons in 21 where he had a clearly below average rushing attack. This season's shitshow being one of them, a season where we are just flat-out bad at running the football because we can't keep a RB healthy and our IOL is lousy. In '04 & '05 he lost Westbrook for large chunks of the year, in '08 & '09 he had serious OL issues, Westbrook had lost a step (after making an All-Pro team under Reid, mind you) and he turned the reigns over to the rookie McCoy in '09 who the following season ALSO became an All-Pro under Reid in a season where he had 17 rushing touchdowns. Charles gets as many carries per game under Reid in 2013 as he ever has in his career and makes an All-Pro team. Duce Staley gets 325 carries (60+ more carries than he had under Ray Rhodes the previous year) for his career season the year Andy takes over in Philly. Then of course Kareem Hunt leads the league in rushing under Andy.
I mean, we're gonna bitch about the fact that he didn't hand off the ball to the "League's leading rusher" in the Titans game where they got a whopping 3 possessions in the 2nd half, one of which was stalled precisely because of a negative rushing attempt on 1st down, and just gloss right over the fact that Andy Reid ran an offense that yielded the league's leading rusher that season.
You're right - a dude w/ a track record of getting exceptional seasons out of 2nd day picks and who managed to do stuff like get 564 yards at 5 yards/clip out of Bryce Brown as his backup RB clearly just doesn't care about the running game. Dude who's average season is above average in rushing yards and who routinely finishes in the top 10 in rushing YPC (and top 5 nearly half the time) while managing to create careers for guys like Spencer Ware and Correll Buckhalter clearly doesn't know how to utilize his backs.
Andy Reid, who's average offensive output over a 21 year career is a top 10 offense despite thoroughly average QBs, simply doesn't understand that if he'd have just handed the ball off more, everything would've been BETTER. The guy with the .600+ winning percentage who will almost certainly retire as one of the top 5 winningest coaches in football history - secret idiot all along. Doesn't know how to use runningbacks or score points, a 21 year track record of high scoring offenses and productive runningbacks be damned.
Yup. You've got it aaaaall figured out.
When Andy Reid has the horses, he runs the football and he runs it extremely well. He won't force it because he's smarter than you are. But if Pacheco is a baller, he'll eat. Just as every good RB to ever play in an Andy Reid offense has. [Reply]
If anything Pacheco's production will be like Larry Johnson if the run blocking is as good as we think it is and if Isaih has the talent to back it up [Reply]
