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The Lounge>Jon Gruden made an oopsie [and has resigned]
Superturtle 03:30 PM 10-08-2021

NFL statement: “The email from Jon Gruden denigrating DeMaurice Smith is appalling, abhorrent and wholly contrary to the NFL’s values. We condemn the statement and regret any harm that its publication may inflict on Mr. Smith or anyone else.” https://t.co/b9IUku9saH

— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) October 8, 2021

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Pants 04:11 PM 10-18-2021
Originally Posted by jd1020:
Long story short, the Washington Football Team has been under investigation for having an abusive, harassing, and a general toxic operation. They've been sued multiple times and have settled out of court for something like a whopping grand total of $12M dollars. The investigation apparently uncovered 650k emails relating to the work environment. A few people lost their jobs and Dan Snyder temporarily stepped away from the day to day operations and his wife is running the show right now, probably as his puppet. The NFL has said that the 650k emails will remain confidential but apparently leaked racists emails about Jon Gruden. So now all the main stream sports media is doing nothing but talk about what a terrible person Gruden is while the investigation into the WFT goes on page 2.
Ahhh. Gotcha.

Thanks, man.
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chiefzilla1501 04:19 PM 10-18-2021
Originally Posted by jd1020:
Long story short, the Washington Football Team has been under investigation for having an abusive, harassing, and a general toxic operation. They've been sued multiple times and have settled out of court for something like a whopping grand total of $12M dollars. The investigation apparently uncovered 650k emails relating to the work environment. A few people lost their jobs and Dan Snyder temporarily stepped away from the day to day operations and his wife is running the show right now, probably as his puppet. The NFL has said that the 650k emails will remain confidential but apparently leaked racists emails about Jon Gruden. So now all the main stream sports media is doing nothing but talk about what a terrible person Gruden is while the investigation into the WFT goes on page 2.
The WFT investigation was on page 10 a few weeks ago. People were aware but it faded completely away. Again, how many people knew his emails were ever being investigated until grudens emails were leaked. He brought the whole scandal back into the spotlight. Worse, he brought the worst aspect of the scandal into the limelight because gruden was loosely associated. I can't believe the cheerleader scandal hasn't exploded.

And how long do you think grudens page 1 is going to last? Once that fades, and it already is, Washington becomes page 1. Either WFT was getting ahead of something huge and immediately imminent, or they ****ed themselves.
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jd1020 04:22 PM 10-18-2021
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501:
The WFT investigation was on page 10 a few weeks ago. People were aware but it faded completely away. Again, how many people knew his emails were ever being investigated until grudens emails were leaked. He brought the whole scandal back into the spotlight. Worse, he brought the worst aspect of the scandal into the limelight. I can't believe the cheerleader scandal hasn't exploded.

And how long do you think grudens page 1 is going to last? Once that fades, and it already is, Washington becomes page 1. Either WFT was getting ahead of something huge and imminent, or they ****ed themselves.


The power at be, the NFL, has known about these emails for months. Whatever is going to happen to the WFT has already happened.
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chiefzilla1501 04:33 PM 10-18-2021
Originally Posted by jd1020:


The power at be, the NFL, has known about these emails for months. Whatever is going to happen to the WFT has already happened.
So if the NFL has everything and whatever is going to happen happened, that means they successfully buried the story. And this nonsense put it right back in the spotlight.

Of course the NFL knows about this. They've been covering this up for decades. So why would the NFL draw attention to these emails existing let alone showing that leaking them was an option? Now the public and media want to see Snyders emails too. Do you not realize that way more people are talking about Snyders emails then they were before the story leak?
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jd1020 04:39 PM 10-18-2021
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501:
So if the NFL has everything and whatever is going to happen happened, that means they successfully buried the story. And this nonsense put it right back in the spotlight.

Of course the NFL knows about this. They've been covering this up for decades. So why would the NFL draw attention to these emails existing let alone showing that leaking them was an option? Now the public and media want to see Snyders emails too. Do you not realize that way more people are talking about Snyders emails then they were before the story leak?
Jesus ****ing christ with your dumbass conspiracy. They probably leaked it because the commissioner got pissed off that Gruden called him a bundle of sticks and a pussy and the NFL couldn't get rid of him without opening up a can of worms since it happened before he was employed by the NFL. Maybe Dumboriss Smith was the initial leakster because he needed a couple more votes to keep his job and what better way to secure it than putting the voters in a spot of firing the guy who was just racially attacked.
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stevieray 05:04 PM 10-18-2021
Originally Posted by wazu:
Yes but he's utterly destroyed either way. Unless there is something that results in him facing criminal charges, why not fight?
In the immortal words of Steve Miller:

Go on take the money and run!


woooo hooo hooo
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chiefzilla1501 05:21 PM 10-18-2021
Originally Posted by jd1020:
Jesus ****ing christ with your dumbass conspiracy. They probably leaked it because the commissioner got pissed off that Gruden called him a bundle of sticks and a pussy and the NFL couldn't get rid of him without opening up a can of worms since it happened before he was employed by the NFL.
So again... you're saying the the NFL despite knowing they have one of the most explosive investigations in their history decided to draw even more attention to that investigation all out of revenge for a naughty name. And that the best lawyers in the biz agreed that this was a good idea?

Or that this diversion was successful because they distracted from the very investigation many people had already forgotten about. As if the added attention to the investigation was a positive? What do they have to gain by any of this?

I am not pushing conspiracy theories. I am just trying to make sense of something that doesn't add up. You act like this was such a simple thing, but it means a lot of smart people got in a room and decided to do something monumentally stupid.
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TripleThreat 09:35 AM 10-19-2021
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501:
The WFT investigation was on page 10 a few weeks ago. People were aware but it faded completely away. Again, how many people knew his emails were ever being investigated until grudens emails were leaked. He brought the whole scandal back into the spotlight. Worse, he brought the worst aspect of the scandal into the limelight because gruden was loosely associated. I can't believe the cheerleader scandal hasn't exploded.

And how long do you think grudens page 1 is going to last? Once that fades, and it already is, Washington becomes page 1. Either WFT was getting ahead of something huge and immediately imminent, or they ****ed themselves.
What cheer leading scandal?
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jettio 10:20 AM 10-19-2021
Mike Florio had his say and Mina Kimes had her say about preferring a utopian world where all the emails are disclosed and more people get embarrassed.

But Florio is back to doing his show and not saying anything about it and Mina Kimes is focused on giggling with all the other gigglers on NFL Live as it tries to be like the Good Morning Football chuckle-fest.

So I am going to guess that nobody cares enough about it for it to be a problem for the NFL.

The only way it becomes a story is if somebody leaks more to the press, and it would probably have to be someone willing to risk something. Seems like the leaks that did Gruden in were authorized leaks and nobody got into trouble for the disclosure.
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Red Dawg 11:09 AM 10-19-2021
Does anyone really care about this crap? Nobody is perfect and everyone has their own personal views of what they like and who they like and what they think.

The world is not perfect and people think what they think. Releasing their private emails will do nothing but be a story at best.
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RunKC 11:28 AM 10-19-2021
Originally Posted by Red Dawg:
Does anyone really care about this crap? Nobody is perfect and everyone has their own personal views of what they like and who they like and what they think.

The world is not perfect and people think what they think. Releasing their private emails will do nothing but be a story at best.
When you’re in a position of power like a CEO, coach or owner you don’t get the luxury of private emails.

Keep that shit to yourself if you want to remain in power
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chiefzilla1501 12:24 PM 10-19-2021
Originally Posted by TripleThreat:
What cheer leading scandal?
They sent cheerleaders to a foreign country, took their passports, were pressuring them to pose topless, used these photos without their permission then pimped them out to VIPs.
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CasselGotPeedOn 12:29 PM 10-19-2021
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501:
They sent cheerleaders to a foreign country, took their passports, were pressuring them to pose topless, used these photos without their permission then pimped them out to VIPs.

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chiefzilla1501 12:37 PM 10-19-2021
Originally Posted by RunKC:
When you’re in a position of power like a CEO, coach or owner you don’t get the luxury of private emails.

Keep that shit to yourself if you want to remain in power
Apparently if you are an nfl owner you do get that luxury
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Superturtle 04:51 PM 10-20-2021

"Man, the sideline was just so, it was like, it wasn't no anxiety. It was weird. It was like everybody was calm, you didn't have somebody cussing at you, or going crazy at the refs. None of that. Something bad happened and it like, 'OK, next play.'" - #Raiders RB Josh Jacobs

— Paul Gutierrez (@PGutierrezESPN) October 20, 2021

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