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Patteeu Memorial Political Forum>Are you going to take the vaccine?
GloryDayz 08:48 AM 12-01-2020
I know I'm going to try to be first in line, but what about the rest of you? I'm not sure if the death count is where the science community wants it to be, plus Birdbrain hasn't been sworn in, so I expect there will be delays, but that's beside the point.

You can be honest.
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Donger 09:24 AM 04-19-2021
Originally Posted by MagicHef:
Is this true? My understanding was that the efficacy data from the mRNA vaccines was prior to the emergence of extra variants, and the efficacy data from J&J was after, so they weren't entirely comparable.
The last information I saw was that Moderna has dropped to 90% efficacy and that J&J is still in the 70% range. I haven't seen anything new on Pfizer.
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Donger 09:27 AM 04-19-2021
Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush:
Which is how we know the vaccines work, for anyone who doubts their effectiveness.
Yep, and the number of new cases among the 65 and older group are declining.
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Prison Bitch 09:34 AM 04-19-2021
Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush:
Which is how we know the vaccines work, for anyone who doubts their effectiveness.
Cenk Uygur doubts their effectiveness when traveling to red states.
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Donger 09:46 AM 04-19-2021
Here's an update, such as it is:

https://www.advisory.com/en/daily-br...iants-vaccines
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BucEyedPea 09:59 AM 04-19-2021
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
Cenk Uygur doubts their effectiveness when traveling to red states.
See what he did there he pluralized "vaccines" as if no vaccine was ever taken off the market or changed due to not being effective or harmful. The SwineFlu vaccine was just such a vaccine, that killed and harmed enough to be abandoned. It was a RUSHED vaccine because of an epidemic, but not tested long enough. Not surprisingly, it was doctors who were in congress at that time, who refused to endorse or vote for it because it was rushed.

Even the malaria vaccine under went changes because it wasn't considered effective later on. This does happen.
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AdolfOliverBush 10:29 AM 04-19-2021
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
Cenk Uygur doubts their effectiveness when traveling to red states.
Fortunately, personal beliefs have no impact of the efficacy of the vaccines.
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SuperBowl4 10:29 AM 04-19-2021
Originally Posted by Donger:
Yep, and the number of new cases among the 65 and older group are declining.
That's because flu season is almost over. Duh.
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AdolfOliverBush 10:30 AM 04-19-2021
Originally Posted by SuperBowl4:
That's because flu season is almost over. Duh.
We're not talking about the flu. Covid spread rapidly throughout last Summer, so it clearly doesn't have a "season" like influenza.
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Donger 11:18 AM 04-19-2021
Originally Posted by SuperBowl4:
That's because flu season is almost over. Duh.
That makes no sense.
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Donger 11:19 AM 04-19-2021
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/19/covi...e-rollout.html

I'm glad that we aren't Chile:

A study published by the University of Chile earlier this month reported that CoronaVac was 56.5% effective two weeks after the second doses were administered in the country. Crucially, however, they also reported that one dose was only 3% effective.

“This would help to explain why Chile — with one of the world’s most robust vaccine rollouts but 93% of the doses coming from China — has experienced a simultaneous significant expansion in cases, and a much slower decline in hospitalizations and deaths compared to the early rollouts in Israel, the United Kingdom and the United States,” Ian Bremmer, president of risk consultancy Eurasia Group, said in a research note.

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Shaid 02:20 PM 04-19-2021
Originally Posted by Titty Meat:
Reported cases right? Israel is also what 9 million people? Since we had no tracking I'm sure were even higher than that. If we're at 30% fully vaxxed in this country I'd imagine 60-65% would be the sweet spot 80% seems pretty high
I tend to agree with this and while I'm not an Epidemiologist, I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
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Imon Yourside 03:20 PM 04-19-2021
If you can guarantee it's 100% effective and safe then sure i'll take it.
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BucEyedPea 03:23 PM 04-19-2021
Originally Posted by Imon Yourside:
If you can guarantee it's 100% effective and safe then sure i'll take it.
No coronavirus vaccine has ever been beyond 50-60% effective. There are merely a bunch of "believers" about this kind of vaccine. Plus, we already know the death numbers are fake news.
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Imon Yourside 03:26 PM 04-19-2021
Originally Posted by BucEyedPea:
No coronavirus vaccine has ever been beyond 50-60% effective. There are merely a bunch of "believers" about this kind of vaccine. Plus, we already know the death numbers are fake news.
Some of us know....
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BucEyedPea 03:30 PM 04-19-2021
Originally Posted by Imon Yourside:
Some of us know....
Yep, we do.
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