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Saccopoo Memorial Draft Forum>*** 2022 Mock Draft Megathread ***
duncan_idaho 12:45 PM 11-23-2021
Got a mock? Pop it in this thread. Include a picture if you want. Explain your reasoning if you want. Talk about your crushes... if you want.

See a good "pro" mock? Link it up in here and I'll add it to the OP.

Duncan's latest mock

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The Draft Network This mock seems to be the most accurate site right now, so I go with this one. I don't pay for it, so no trades here. The plan is for this to be my last mock. I'm going to do it differently, though. I'm running 3 scenarios, and eschewing the 7th round picks, which I would use on a big swings on athleticism and potential. Lotto tickets. James Houston IV is one of them. Note: I used PFF to simulate the trade action, then manually backed up in the 2 "trade" drafts to make selections. Laborious, but gives you best of both worlds, IMO. I think PFF's trade tool is the best, but its board is whack.

Draft slot: 29

Scenario 1: The Chiefs sit pat with their picks and don't make any moves at all. Seems the least likely, but hey...
1.29 | George Karlaftis, DE, Purdue.
1.30 | Boye Mafe, DE, Minnesota.
2.50 | George Pickens, WR, Georgia.
2.62 | Travis Jones, DT, UConn.
3.94 | Zyon McCollum, CB, Sam Houston State.
3.103(Comp for Poles) | Troy Andersen, LB, Montana State.
4.121 | Coby Bryant, CB, Cincinnati.
4.135 | Velus Jones, Jr., Tennessee

Scenario 1 Debrief:
So, sitting and waiting to see what comes to me was pretty successful here. The Chiefs FLOOD the defensive line with reinforcements, including at least 1 ready-made starter and two guys who should - at minimum - be in 50/50 rotations at their spots by year end. The Chiefs still get a big outside WR with tantalizing potential. They add some crazy athletic small-school guys, and a mid-round corner who just fits in the system, and a dynamo return man who might be more at WR.

This looks pretty good. Though I have a hard time believing Karlaftis just falls to 29...

Scenario 2: The Chiefs get aggressive and trade up. But for what? In this case, let's go wide receiver. In this run, Kansas City trades picks 29, 62, and a 2023 3rd to Houston for pick 13 and a 2023 4th, because they ARE as obsessed with a WR as people expect and are aggressive to go get him when the board falls right. They then trade BACK from 30 to 35 with the Jets, also including pick 94 in order to get 69 back. Then, last but not least, KC gets aggressive one more time and moves 103 and 121 for 85 from New England, leaving the Chiefs with 6 picks in the first four rounds.
1.13 | Jameson Williams, WR, Alabama.
2.35 | Cam Thomas, DE, San Diego State.
2.50 | Jalen Pitre, S, Baylor.
3.69 | Zachary Carter, DT, Florida.
3.85 | Sam Williams, DE, Ole Miss.
4.135 | Jaylen Watson, CB, Washington State

Scenario 2 Debrief:
I'm not saying KC should do this or even that I think they will (more on that in a few minutes). I'm just saying, man, what will it look like if the Chiefs get aggressive a few times AND are doing the big move for a WR? In this scenario, KC obviously believes Williams is a game-changer at the NFL level and is taking a small 2022 hit to make 2023+ better. The defensive line still gets reinforced, but the reinforcements are all a shade worse than the sit-pat draft option. If you like Kingsley Enagbare or Josh PAscal more than Thomas, I get it and wouldn't quibble at one of those guys instead. Logan Hall, too. Pitre is such a screaming perfect fit for KC's D. Carter is a great physical talent you can dream about coaching up. Williams' utility is known and gives them a true RE option to pair against their higher-drafted bigger guy. Watson is a developmental corner.

I don't love it. I think Pitre makes the secondary a lot better and makes it easier to move on from Thornhill after 22. They have improved the defensive rotation, though one of the DEs would need to outperform expectations in Year 1 to get it to the same level as Scenario 1. In all, giving up the 2 extra selections in the top 4 rounds hurts the depth you can build, but I think it's more like what KC will do.

Scenario 3: Same movements as #2
1.13 | Jermaine Johnson II, DE, Florida State.
2.35 | Christian Watson, WR, North Dakota State.
2.50 | Sam Williams, DE, Ole Miss.
3.69 | Bryan Cook, S, Cincinnati.
3.85 | Martin Emerson, CB, Miss. State.
4.135 | Braxton Jones, T, Southern Utah

Scenario 3 Debrief:
This is the type of situation where I see KC paying the price to move up... if Johnson falls this far, I'd be shocked if KC isn't aggressively moving up. With this run, I take a risky but high upside WR in Watson (but you could sub in Pickens or Jahan Dotson or Tolbert or Metchie or Skyy Moore or really any of those tier 2 guys here if you prefer). The secondary reinforcements aren't flashy but are good fits.

In this one, I think the plan has to become adding either another safety or corner in free agency before the season. Ideally, it's someone who can handle the slot and let Sneed thriver on the outside. The DL gets a major boost and some potential star power in Johnson and Williams, and the OL gets another T option and potential long-term starter to develop.

Having completed the exercise and looking at the scenariors, I like the first one the most. But it really does come down to how the board breaks.

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DJ's left nut 10:14 AM 03-10-2022
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
I wish I knew how much Veach and Reid really valued that #2 WR spot. Robinson is out of reach now and I don't really see them blowing a wad on Cooper. Chark and Kirk are going to get priced out of our range and Juju might be there as well.

We can grab a WR in the 2nd round but a lot of these guys who we want are probably going to require a trade up in the 2nd.
There are so many of them that are so similar, though.

I mean are there really clear grounds for distinction between maybe 10 2nd round caliber WRs?

Pickens, Watson, Bell, Metchie, Tolbert, Pierce and Doubs all fit that athletic big WR mold. Meanwhile guys like Moore, Robinson and Austin could all be guys that other teams like enough to take in the mid-2nd.
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The Franchise 10:21 AM 03-10-2022
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
There are so many of them that are so similar, though.

I mean are there really clear grounds for distinction between maybe 10 2nd round caliber WRs?

Pickens, Watson, Bell, Metchie, Tolbert, Pierce and Doubs all fit that athletic big WR mold. Meanwhile guys like Moore, Robinson and Austin could all be guys that other teams like enough to take in the mid-2nd.
I'm not sure that Austin's combine is enough to move him into the 2nd. I think he'll be there in the 4th.
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The Franchise 10:32 AM 03-10-2022
These sites are just all over the place.

Mock Draft machine has Wyatt in the first....and Sam Williams in the 3rd.
Pro Football Network has Wyatt and Williams in the 2nd.
PFF has Wyatt in the first and Sam Williams in the 4th.
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duncan_idaho 10:49 AM 03-10-2022
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
These sites are just all over the place.

Mock Draft machine has Wyatt in the first....and Sam Williams in the 3rd.
Pro Football Network has Wyatt and Williams in the 2nd.
PFF has Wyatt in the first and Sam Williams in the 4th.
Yeah. When I ran my mock, my reaction after the fact was that my first two picks might be possible, but in reverse order. Thomas seems to be slipping a bit. I wouldn't mind at all getting him at #62. Would seem like great value.

I really like Wyatt and Phidarian Mathis and think they would add a LOT next to Jones if the draft falls that way.
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RunKC 12:29 PM 03-10-2022
Honesty the fact that they havenít let Frank Clark go yet is concerning. His June 1st designation doesnít matter.

Usually with these guys you do them a favor and cut them before FA begins so they arenít screwed in June when rosters are set. I donít see Veach screwing any player over.

Sure thereís about a week left, but the longer this plays out the more likely he stays IMO
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staylor26 12:32 PM 03-10-2022
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Honesty the fact that they havenít let Frank Clark go yet is concerning. His June 1st designation doesnít matter.

Usually with these guys you do them a favor and cut them before FA begins so they arenít screwed in June when rosters are set. I donít see Veach screwing any player over.

Sure thereís about a week left, but the longer this plays out the more likely he stays IMO
Itís not at all concerning when you look at Veachís comments about Clark. He made it pretty obvious that he was more than likely going to be cut.
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The Franchise 12:34 PM 03-10-2022
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Honesty the fact that they havenít let Frank Clark go yet is concerning. His June 1st designation doesnít matter.

Usually with these guys you do them a favor and cut them before FA begins so they arenít screwed in June when rosters are set. I donít see Veach screwing any player over.

Sure thereís about a week left, but the longer this plays out the more likely he stays IMO
If he isnít cut by the first day of FAÖ.then Iíll be worried. They could also be waiting to see if they can grab a DE in the first wave. Itís not like Clark is going to be some hot commodity.
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RunKC 12:42 PM 03-10-2022
Originally Posted by staylor26:
Itís not at all concerning when you look at Veachís comments about Clark. He made it pretty obvious that he was more than likely going to be cut.
Then I expect he be released before FA on 3/16 unless they come to an agreement to restructure his bloated cap number.
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Bowser 12:42 PM 03-10-2022
They might be holding on to him until the draft, as well. If the EDGE and DE prospects all dry up in FA and right before our pick, Clark may very well be their Plan C or D.
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Tribal Warfare 12:39 AM 03-11-2022



Here's Sam Williams vs Alabama's O-Line
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Chris Meck 07:18 AM 03-11-2022
I never go WR in the first, but this time Olave fell to 30 so I wanted to see what the rest of the draft looks like if you go WR there...I don't hate it.

KC
30.
Chris Olave
WR Ohio State-4.26 speed. You can't coach it, you can't cover it.


KC
62.
Sam Williams
EDGE Mississippi-Explosive, athletic 3 down DE.

KC
94.
Nicholas Petit-Frere
OT Ohio State-took this opportunity to finish the offensive line.

KC
103.
Rachaad White
RB Arizona State-my draft crush! well rounded 3 down workhorse RB.

KC
134.
Damone Clark
LB LSU-freak athlete; underachieved a bit at LSU, but could well finish off an elite LB corps in KC if you unlock the potential.

KC
190.
Zyon McCollum
CB Sam Houston State-good lord, 6'2", 200 lbs. and a 9.16 RAS. This is raw athletic talent of elite potential.

KC
231.
Tycen Anderson
S Toledo-same thing here; 4.36 speed, 9.64 RAS. All the physical potential in the world, and hot, nasty speed.

KC
241.
Tyquan Thornton
WR Baylor-4.26 speed; see a theme here? I figured why not just load up on athletic freaks late. You've got a better chance of the light going on for one of 'em and having a Tyreek thing happen.

KC
249.
Isaiah Weston
WR Northern Iowa-yup, freak athlete. 9.98 RAS. A near perfect WR prospect physically. Can he run a route? dunno. let's find out.


KC
260.
Noah Elliss
DT Idaho-AND then we have a totally different kind of freak. Huge lump'a mashed potatoes here. You can't move him, you can't go through him, you'll have to go around him. Way, way out and around him. A short yardage and first down space eater.
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TambaBerry 09:42 AM 03-11-2022
KC
33.

Cameron Thomas
EDGE San Diego State
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KC
62.

Sam Williams
EDGE Mississippi
KC
91.

George Pickens
WR Georgia
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KC
94.

Jerome Ford
RB Cincinnati
KC
103.

Damone Clark
LB LSU
KC
134.

JT Woods
S Baylor
KC
231.

Josh Blackwell
CB Duke
KC
241.

Bo Melton
WR Rutgers
KC
249.

Tayland Humphrey
DT Louisiana
KC
260.

Eric Johnson
DT Missouri State
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kcbubb 10:08 AM 03-11-2022
Isaiah weston is very interesting…. 6’3.5” and 214 lbs, 4.42 - 40 and 40” vert and an eye popping 135” broad and 20 reps on the bench, that’s ridiculous. Those numbers are similar to Julio Jones. He’s a freak. And looks smooth.
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kcbubb 10:09 AM 03-11-2022
Al Davis would love this draft.
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TambaBerry 10:45 AM 03-11-2022
32.
Drake London
WR USC
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KC

62.
Arnold Ebiketie
EDGE Penn State
KC

94.
Brian Asamoah II
LB Oklahoma
KC

97.
Rasheed Walker
OT Penn State
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KC

103.
Isaiah Thomas
EDGE Oklahoma
KC

134.
Leo Chenal
LB Wisconsin
KC

231.
Josh Blackwell
CB Duke
KC

241.
Zach VanValkenburg
EDGE Iowa
KC

249.
Quay Holmes
RB ETSU
KC

260.
Noah Elliss
DT Idaho
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