Give this lady a Darwin award (posthumously, of course).
Originally Posted by : Unvaccinated Trump supporter who spread coronavirus conspiracy theories dies of COVID-19
On Tuesday, the Cape Cod Times reported that Linda Zuern, a former member of the Bourne, Massachusetts Board of Selectmen and a Trump-supporting figure in the local Republican Party, had died of COVID-19.
Zuern died at Brigham and Women's Hospital in Boston of severe complications caused by COVID-19, according to the report. She was 70 years old and had not been vaccinated.
"She was a strong woman who believed in speaking the truth and defending our freedoms in America," Republican State Committeewoman Deborah Dugan told the Cape Cod Times. Dugan was at Zuern's bedside when she died. "I would describe her to people as a little woman but a mighty warrior."
For months, Zuern, a member of the pro-Trump group the United Cape Patriots, had promoted conspiracy theories about the pandemic on Facebook. She has shared articles accusing the World Health Organization of a coverup of the "Wuhan Virus" and claiming COVID-19 is cover for "globalists" to usher in "U.N. Agenda 2030" — a sustainable development initiative right-wing conspiracy theorists assert is a plot to create a one world government.
Zuern also expressed support for the QAnon conspiracy theory, posting their creed of "WWG1WGA" (Where We Go One, We Go All).
Zuern promoted the use of hydroxychloroquine as a treatment of COVID-19 during a Barnstable County Assembly of Delegates meeting in December and questioned whether officials "had looked into preventative measures that people could use besides a vaccine to help build up their immune system," the Cape Cod Times reported.
Peter Meier, chair of the Board of Selectmen, said Zuern cared deeply about others. "She definitely left her mark on the community," he added.
According to the report, Zuern and her mother contracted COVID-19 while returning home from a trip to South Dakota — a state where Republican-motivated policies have let the virus propagate with little control.
Originally Posted by seamonster:
That's wrong. Natural protection can provide herd immunity.
Actually, that's not true. Frequently a second infection in an unvaccinated individual leads to serious illness.
The current "gold standard" in immunity is actually very interesting. It's neither unvaxxed people (duh), nor those who have had a double vaccine shot. Its actually people who have been infected by covid once, survived that infection, then got a single dose of vaccine.
These people (infected first/single vaccine shot second) have better immunity than the double vax shot people (who still have a good level of immunity), and obviously far better immunity than unvaxxed people.
Originally Posted by Imon Yourside:
If you take care of yourself and take some simple steps you will be just fine, if not well then you can take the mark of the beast to feel good while being unprotected.
Shit can happen, regardless of the malady. That's why fearmongering works.
So are we pretending that people who have issues with the Covid19 vaccine are antivaxers now? Is this like the pro choice and pro life thing where you use labels to characterize people who disagree with you in the worst way possible?
Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson:
Let’s not call them anti-vax, let’s call them pro-COVID.
No that's two-valued logic and is unreasonable. Rather is illogical.
They want to use the safer effective treatments early-on that work, instead of a vastly under tested, vastly un-monitored Gate's vaccine and something Klaus Schwab demands everybody get. They want to preserve their long-term health instead of some fake quick fix that is uncertain.
I've started that but mainly to avoid the inflation that is coming. I am getting everything I need for the next year and using two new 0% cards so I can pay it all off with cheaper dollars over the next 6 months.
Originally Posted by listopencil:
So are we pretending that people who have issues with the Covid19 vaccine are antivaxers now?
are you pretending some / many aren't?
are you pretending that every person who doesn't want the vaccine is the exact same?
are you pretending the general public can't tell the difference between someone with a legitimate concern vs a nut job?
are you pretending people like BEP , mahomes , etc etc and most of the prolific anti vax posters in here are not anti vaxxers posting links from spam.sites and not even understanding the math or science behind their re-postings?
Originally Posted by Pawnmower:
are you pretending some / many aren't?
are you pretending that every person who doesn't want the vaccine is the exact same?
are you pretending the general public can't tell the difference between someone with a legitimate concern vs a nut job?
are you pretending people like BEP , mahomes , etc etc and most of the prolific anti vax posters in here are not anti vaxxers posting links from spam.sites and not even understanding the math or science behind their re-postings?
Please submit you long term study analysis......
Oh you don't have that? The Control Groups don't exist anymore? Weird, I thought we wanted to follow the Science.
Hard to follow the Scientific method when you don't have control groups.
Originally Posted by Stro39:
Actually, that's not true. Frequently a second infection in an unvaccinated individual leads to serious illness.
The current "gold standard" in immunity is actually very interesting. It's neither unvaxxed people (duh), nor those who have had a double vaccine shot. Its actually people who have been infected by covid once, survived that infection, then got a single dose of vaccine.
These people (infected first/single vaccine shot second) have better immunity than the double vax shot people (who still have a good level of immunity), and obviously far better immunity than unvaxxed people.
Natural immunity seems to protect you pretty well without any vaccine. Atleast in the studies that have been done so far.
Originally Posted by Pawnmower:
what does any of this have to do with you being an antivaxxer? should we pretend you aren't?
No because I've had 69 Vaccines in my life. Calling me ANTI-VAX because I wont make is 70 seems pretty fucking dumb. (PS that is how many shots are on the schedule for children before they turn 12)
Originally Posted by Nirvana58:
Natural immunity seems to protect you pretty well without any vaccine. Atleast in the studies that have been done so far.
Originally Posted by BleedingRed:
No because I've had 69 Vaccines in my life. Calling me ANTI-VAX because I wont make is 70 seems pretty ****ing dumb. (PS that is how many shots are on the schedule for children before they turn 12)
Lawn mower boy is a retard.
He throws around words but mumbles them without knowing their meaning.
Originally Posted by Imon Yourside:
If you take care of yourself and take some simple steps you will be just fine, if not well then you can take the mark of the beast to feel good while being unprotected.
