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Nzoner's Game Room>*****The George Karlaftis Thread*****
Dante84 09:16 PM 04-28-2022
More to come!









What are the #Chiefs getting in George Karlaftis?

Had an NFC Personnel executive tell me “He reminds me of J.J. Watt, when Watt was coming out. An explosive and versatile playmaker who has a high motor and can line up at 3,5, or 7. Very strong kid” #NFL #NFLDraft pic.twitter.com/5qM3g6OrMr

— Matt Lombardo (@MattLombardoNFL) April 29, 2022


George Karlaftis was drafted with pick 30 of round 1 in the 2022 draft class. He scored a 9.23 RAS out of a possible 10.00. This ranked 116 out of 1503 DE from 1987 to 2022. https://t.co/iXXBvnoFJc #RAS #Chiefs pic.twitter.com/eZ9XjNRDUB

— Kent Lee Platte (@MathBomb) April 29, 2022


“I was sitting there the whole night hoping we’d be able to get you.”

Karlaftis gets the call �� pic.twitter.com/DRGBDekvnl

— Kansas City Chiefs (@Chiefs) April 29, 2022

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Tribal Warfare 06:16 PM 11-15-2022
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
Nah, not really. JAG is the likes of kaindoh or KPass. Brandon Speaks.

George is already well past that level.
He's right there with Kpassagnon/Allen Bailey blocked passes and almost getting there
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Megatron96 06:41 PM 11-15-2022
Originally Posted by raybec 4:
Breeland
Lol, autocorrect strikes again. Any time I try to type B and R together it decides to go with Brandon.:-)

Good catch
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Coochie liquor 08:12 PM 11-15-2022
Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare:
He's right there with Kpassagnon/Allen Bailey blocked passes and almost getting there
Bro. Stop!
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TwistedChief 08:26 PM 11-15-2022
Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare:
He's right there with Kpassagnon/Allen Bailey blocked passes and almost getting there
Bailey played 102 games for the Chiefs and had 6 batted passes.

Karlaftis has played 9 games for the Chiefs and has 5 batted passes.

Excellent comp there on your part.
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Tribal Warfare 08:32 PM 11-15-2022
Originally Posted by Coochie liquor:
Bro. Stop!

Why? He's a roleplayer at best, he can't outmuscle most Tackles but doesn't get blown off necessarily. He has a very average 10 yard burst Trevor Lawrence, Herbert, Allen, Carr all outran him to have decent gain or got the pass off for a completion during most of his pressures. If Karlaftis was a 4th round pick, he'd be a pleasant surprise but as a 1st round pick who suppose to help the passrush George's been disappointing.
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Bl00dyBizkitz 08:33 PM 11-15-2022
Originally Posted by TwistedChief:
Bailey played 102 games for the Chiefs and had 6 batted passes.

Karlaftis has played 9 games for the Chiefs and has 5 batted passes.

Excellent comp there on your part.
Numbers are hard, and they take time to look up.

Why do that when I can just blurt out whatever comes to mind?
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Tribal Warfare 08:33 PM 11-15-2022
Originally Posted by TwistedChief:
Bailey played 102 games for the Chiefs and had 6 batted passes.

Karlaftis has played 9 games for the Chiefs and has 5 batted passes.

Excellent comp there on your part.
Strength player
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tyecopeland 03:31 PM 11-16-2022

Rookie leaders in pressures per @PFF
Hutchinson/Karlaftis 28
Walker 24
Ebiketie 21
Thibkbeaux 18
Thomas 12
Jackson 11

— Eric Eager ���� (@ericeager_) November 16, 2022

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suzzer99 03:32 PM 11-16-2022
Does anyone know if a sack also counts as a pressure? I assume it does.
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ModSocks 03:33 PM 11-16-2022
Originally Posted by tyecopeland:
That Frank Clark sure knows how to coach up them rookies.
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Skyy God 03:34 PM 11-16-2022
Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare:
Why? He's a roleplayer at best, he can't outmuscle most Tackles but doesn't get blown off necessarily. He has a very average 10 yard burst Trevor Lawrence, Herbert, Allen, Carr all outran him to have decent gain or got the pass off for a completion during most of his pressures. If Karlaftis was a 4th round pick, he'd be a pleasant surprise but as a 1st round pick who suppose to help the passrush George's been disappointing.
Stay down Rocky.
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Marcellus 03:38 PM 11-16-2022
Originally Posted by Bowser:
Remember that season when Eric Hicks has 14.5 sacks? Those were good times!

Right?

via GIPHY


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DJ's left nut 03:41 PM 11-16-2022
Originally Posted by suzzer99:
Does anyone know if a sack also counts as a pressure? I assume it does.
Yes.

Hurries + Hits + Sacks

The events don't 'compound' - a sack doesn't count as a sack, hit and hurry. Each play is one event.

So while 23 hurries, 4 hits and 1 sack is pretty much the least useful way to possible to rack up 28 pressures, that's still a shitload of pressures and a positive sign.

But as I said (in this thread, I believe), some of those hurries in particular are just kinda stupid. Giving a guy a hurry for coming through on a screen pass when that was the entire point of the exercise is wonky as hell.
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Megatron96 03:45 PM 11-16-2022
Originally Posted by suzzer99:
Does anyone know if a sack also counts as a pressure? I assume it does.
Can't believe I found this. This is the definition I was referred to way back in the day when I was an assoc. editor for the Sporting News:

Definitions:

"A Quarterback Sack is awarded to a defender whenever the Quarterback is in possession of the ball behind the LOS and is:

Tackled for a loss of yards, or
Forced out of bounds behind the line of scrimmage to avoid imminent contact, or
Forced to fumble the football irrespective of where the ball goes thereafter. For example, a defender who creates this “strip sack” and the ball is then propelled across the LOS by being batted or kicked, will still receive credit for a QB Sack.
Note: It is possible for the Quarterback to be sacked for a loss of zero (0) yards. However, the ball when re-spotted after the play must clearly have been moved back by at least half the length of the ball as ordinarily observed by the stats crew. The yards lost by Team A in any of the above situations shall be charged as a Team Loss.


A Quarterback Pressure is awarded to a defender who either forces the QB to move off his initial drop back point to avoid contact, contacts the QB in the act of throwing or has the QB in his grasp at the time an Intentional Grounding penalty is called. Only one QB Pressure per play may be awarded to the defense."

This definition appears to indicate that a sack cannot be counted as a QB pressure. It's an "either/or," type of situation.
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htismaqe 07:22 AM 11-17-2022
Once again this board produces some of the worst takes...
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