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Nzoner's Game Room>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

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petegz28 08:47 AM 04-15-2020
Originally Posted by DaFace:
It depends on how it's done, but in most cases, that's not true. Local government can usually add MORE restrictions, but they can't say there are LESS.
Ah....
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petegz28 08:48 AM 04-15-2020
Originally Posted by Monticore:
I think the previous years flu season was worse 80k deaths
I don't know what metric they are using but I will say anecdotally that this is the first year we were told to wear masks if we didn't get the flu shot regardless of where we worked. Usually once a year or so that gets applied in the medical facilities only. This year was everywhere regardless.
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tk13 08:51 AM 04-15-2020
Originally Posted by ghak99:
It makes perfect sense and should have been expected.

The media has spent weeks making this thing out to be the end of the world. We don't have enough ventilators!!!!! Every news channel and half the entertainment shows on TV have been telling people, especially the elderly, to stay home and hide on a 5 minute loop for weeks. As a result, everyone is canceling every appointment they have.

Dooming and glooming the public into a panic has consequences. You can't just reverse the tide. The nurses will just have to take it on the chin like the rest of us.
It's not doom and gloom, we have actually seen those situations play out in areas where this spiraled out of control. The fact that it hasn't happened at a wide spread level is a great sign that people are being smart about it.
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Mecca 08:52 AM 04-15-2020
Originally Posted by tk13:
It's not doom and gloom, we have actually seen those situations play out in areas where this spiraled out of control. The fact that it hasn't happened at a wide spread level is a great sign that people are being smart about it.
Good luck getting some of these people to understand that doing what your told is actually helpful.
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Monticore 08:52 AM 04-15-2020
Originally Posted by ghak99:
It makes perfect sense and should have been expected.

The media has spent weeks making this thing out to be the end of the world. We don't have enough ventilators!!!!! Every news channel and half the entertainment shows on TV have been telling people, especially the elderly, to stay home and hide on a 5 minute loop for weeks. As a result, everyone is canceling every appointment they have.

Dooming and glooming the public into a panic has consequences. You can't just reverse the tide. The nurses will just have to take it on the chin like the rest of us.
The measures that have been put into place by hospitals/government are most likely why a surge will never happen in areas where they took precautions before it infiltrated the community, or maybe not but when it comes to deaths there is a better side to be wrong on.
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ghak99 08:56 AM 04-15-2020
Originally Posted by DaFace:
It depends on how it's done, but in most cases, that's not true. Local government can usually add MORE restrictions, but they can't say there are LESS.
It's an interesting situation.

In theory, smaller areas probably could. What are they going to do about it? Many sheriffs departments have publicly commented on social media making it appear as if they lean to the side of the whole thing being unconstitutional. The city departments are at the will of the city officials. If half the town's businesses are at risk of going under, who is to stop them from opening it back up?
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OnTheWarpath15 08:56 AM 04-15-2020
Originally Posted by Mecca:
Good luck getting some of these people to understand that doing what your told is actually helpful.
Exactly. So many idiots out here like "see the experts were all wrong, it isn't anywhere near as bad as they claimed it would be!"

Uh, it's not as bad because smart people that don't reject science are mostly following guidelines.
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stumppy 08:58 AM 04-15-2020
Always going to be someone who thinks enough people didn't die to justify what has been done when in fact what was done is the reason there are fewer deaths.
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O.city 08:59 AM 04-15-2020
Originally Posted by DaFace:
That's the biggest reason I'm not convinced that the asymptomatic numbers are huge, or at least not huge enough to make that much of a difference. Herd immunity requires like 60-80% of people being immune, and even if you assume there are 10 times as many people immune as our current number of known cases, that's still only around 2% of the U.S. population right now.
But now we're getting stuff that is saying it may be potentially 100 times as many.
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Mecca 09:00 AM 04-15-2020
Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15:
Exactly. So many idiots out here like "see the experts were all wrong, it isn't anywhere near as bad as they claimed it would be!"

Uh, it's not as bad because smart people that don't reject science are mostly following guidelines.
The experts are wrong! Everytime I see that I wanna say, the numbers are less because they implemented measures and people listened. Had we done it your way where everything was open those numbers would probably be off in the other way.

So tired of the stupid DC pandering shit over here, you can always tell what posters spend way to much time over there, it's like all rational logical thought is gone.
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DaFace 09:06 AM 04-15-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
But now we're getting stuff that is saying it may be potentially 100 times as many.
Seems unlikely, but we can hope.
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Monticore 09:07 AM 04-15-2020
Originally Posted by ghak99:
It's an interesting situation.

In theory, smaller areas probably could. What are they going to do about it? Many sheriffs departments have publicly commented on social media making it appear as if they lean to the side of the whole thing being unconstitutional. The city departments are at the will of the city officials. If half the town's businesses are at risk of going under, who is to stop them from opening it back up?
If you remove restrictions on small communities like mine the first people start going all over including bigger centres.
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FloridaMan88 09:08 AM 04-15-2020
Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy:
Parsons thinks MO will be opening up by May.
If Italy and Spain are already starting to ease some of their lockdown restrictions, and France is planning to re-open their schools by May 11th... all countries with far more COVID-19 deaths/cases per capita than the US... it is entirely reasonable for many states to ease restrictions starting in May.
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ghak99 09:08 AM 04-15-2020
Originally Posted by tk13:
It's not doom and gloom, we have actually seen those situations play out in areas where this spiraled out of control. The fact that it hasn't happened at a wide spread level is a great sign that people are being smart about it.
It is doom and gloom. Especially in areas of the country that are so spread out they basically already self isolate.

Originally Posted by Monticore:
The measures that have been put into place by hospitals/government are most likely why a surge will never happen in areas where they took precautions before it infiltrated the community, or maybe not but when it comes to deaths there is a better side to be wrong on.
Of course that is what helps slow the spread.

Both of which have serious consequences people should have expected instead of shouting down the questioners who stopped and asked, "hey what happens when this happens".
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Monticore 09:11 AM 04-15-2020
Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88:
If Italy and Spain are already starting to ease some of their lockdown restrictions, and France is planning to re-open their schools by May 11th... all countries with far more COVID-19 deaths/cases per capita than the US... it is entirely reasonable for many states to ease restrictions starting in May.
So the 3 countries who dealt with the pandemic horribly are the ones you want to follow?
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