Yes 55 47.41%

No 61 52.59%

I am more concerned that Travis just sets down in the middle of the field and didn't move. Kelce is the guy Patrick looks for in that scramble and quit. Probably just worn out.
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Also, I don't understand this obsession some people have with making him play RT.

In Baltimore, he was just as effective as a LT as he was a RT. Maybe even a little bit better. If his deficiencies at the position were masked in Baltimore, what the fuck makes people think he'll be any better as a RT?
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It’s also very possible that he’s still learning to play at a lower weight and that we will start to see improvement in the next couple weeks through the end of the year as he settles in. Especially after the bye if he’s battling an injury.
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I'd buy that if he looked quicker at all, but that's not what I'm seeing.

He just looks lost.

At this point, I don't want this guy back at all, at any price.
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The one thing the lower weight would help with is speed rushing, and that is what he is worst at. So, I'm not buying it.
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Seems to have made him worse. Quickness has not improved and he's just easier to run around now. Maybe he should pork up again. He was at least average last year.
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He has to be gone after this season. They can't bring him back.
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I heard a piece on Sirius NFL Channel a few weeks ago about a team that was having some struggles with their tackles. And the team basically ran all of their plays out of the shotgun.

They said the defense was at the advantage vs the run, because they (especially the LB's) can see the ball and the whole team can play the run while on their way to rush the QB. And the tackles on the team were not very good, so the QB was constantly under pressure on pasing plays.

Their advice was to run more plays under center. They said it slows the DE's enough to let the tackles be more effective, and doesn't allow the defense to play the run on the way to the QB because they can't see the ball.

Now this segment wasn't about us, but it fits.

Without reinventing the offense, could we go under center an extra 10 to 15 plays and help our running game and our passsing game too?

And yes I know we are at the top of the NFL on offense. But there are still issues on that side of the ball that need a little help.
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At least when he inevitably gets blitzkrieged by a speedrusher Mahomes can see it coming and adjust a lot easier than if the pressure is coming from his blind side. And no, moving him to RT wouldn't be the answer, unless by some Miracle of God the Chiefs were gifted an above average LT to take over for him. Then he could fuck off either to the right side or to the bench or out the door.
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Facts

• A NFL team will pay him LT money
• He will not play RT in the NFL
• He will hold out next off season

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The third one is one I haven't thought about yet.

Yes, somebody will pay him.

No, he won't ever play RT again. He won't allow that.

So that leaves us with a couple of options, one of which is tagging him again. It's been brought up many times but I don't recall any discussion of whether or not he would even SIGN a 2nd tag. I bet he won't.
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I agree. You probably couldn’t trade him either. I mean if you’re admitting he’s not a good LT for you then his value plunges.

In that scenario it would just be best to let him walk, save money and hope that you get a 3rd Rd comp
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Agreed.

They just can't bring him back at this point.
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It’s not always going to look THIS bad to be fair. We’ve played probably 4 out of the best 8ish? pass rushes. Obviously we’re going to have to get past Von and the bills, but we’ve played a murderers row so far
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As a 'swing and miss' goes, Veach gave up the equivalent of a 2nd, got two years of cost controlled play at LT, and would get a 3rd back.

That's not bad value, really.
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