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Patteeu Memorial Political Forum>Another anti-vaxxer dies of COVID
Lex Luthor 06:32 PM 07-20-2021
Give this lady a Darwin award (posthumously, of course).

Originally Posted by :
Unvaccinated Trump supporter who spread coronavirus conspiracy theories dies of COVID-19



On Tuesday, the Cape Cod Times reported that Linda Zuern, a former member of the Bourne, Massachusetts Board of Selectmen and a Trump-supporting figure in the local Republican Party, had died of COVID-19.

Zuern died at Brigham and Women's Hospital in Boston of severe complications caused by COVID-19, according to the report. She was 70 years old and had not been vaccinated.

"She was a strong woman who believed in speaking the truth and defending our freedoms in America," Republican State Committeewoman Deborah Dugan told the Cape Cod Times. Dugan was at Zuern's bedside when she died. "I would describe her to people as a little woman but a mighty warrior."

For months, Zuern, a member of the pro-Trump group the United Cape Patriots, had promoted conspiracy theories about the pandemic on Facebook. She has shared articles accusing the World Health Organization of a coverup of the "Wuhan Virus" and claiming COVID-19 is cover for "globalists" to usher in "U.N. Agenda 2030" — a sustainable development initiative right-wing conspiracy theorists assert is a plot to create a one world government.

Zuern also expressed support for the QAnon conspiracy theory, posting their creed of "WWG1WGA" (Where We Go One, We Go All).

Zuern promoted the use of hydroxychloroquine as a treatment of COVID-19 during a Barnstable County Assembly of Delegates meeting in December and questioned whether officials "had looked into preventative measures that people could use besides a vaccine to help build up their immune system," the Cape Cod Times reported.

Peter Meier, chair of the Board of Selectmen, said Zuern cared deeply about others. "She definitely left her mark on the community," he added.

According to the report, Zuern and her mother contracted COVID-19 while returning home from a trip to South Dakota — a state where Republican-motivated policies have let the virus propagate with little control.
https://www.rawstory.com/unvaccinated-trump-supporter/
Lex Luthor 09:31 PM 07-21-2021
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
Looks like fake news.

Since when do Facebook posts become news stories?!
A private citizen used Facebook to talk about her personal experiences. Not sure why you have a problem with that, other than your dogmatic position that vaccines are bad and COVID is a hoax.
HemiEd 09:56 PM 07-21-2021
One of my long time friends who is in his mid 50s just posted this on FB.

"On June 30 I got quite a sinus headache - I went in to my Dr's office the next morning and tested positive for Covid. To make a long story short - I ended up being transported by ambulance to St Luke's hospital in Overland Park. I was there for about a week with Covid Pneumonia. I am now at home in Branson rehabbing my lungs and trying to regain some of the 35 lbs I lost
The Dr told me I had a really bad case and am very fortunate to be alive.
To all of my friends - do not take this stuff lightly - I don't care if there is a 99% survival rate - You don't want it. While I was laying there wondering if I was going to live or die - I definitely did some soul searching wondering if I had done the right thing by not getting the vaccine. I will be taking it in October.
It's a personal decision - I get it. Do your research and make your decision if you haven't already.
Thank You! for all of the prayers !"
cosmo20002 10:05 PM 07-21-2021
Originally Posted by Pogue:
^ voted for Kamala who said she wouldnít get the vaccine. :-)
completely false
Fish 10:05 PM 07-21-2021
Originally Posted by HybridEd:
One of my long time friends who is in his mid 50s just posted this on FB.

"On June 30 I got quite a sinus headache - I went in to my Dr's office the next morning and tested positive for Covid. To make a long story short - I ended up being transported by ambulance to St Luke's hospital in Overland Park. I was there for about a week with Covid Pneumonia. I am now at home in Branson rehabbing my lungs and trying to regain some of the 35 lbs I lost
The Dr told me I had a really bad case and am very fortunate to be alive.
To all of my friends - do not take this stuff lightly - I don't care if there is a 99% survival rate - You don't want it. While I was laying there wondering if I was going to live or die - I definitely did some soul searching wondering if I had done the right thing by not getting the vaccine. I will be taking it in October.
It's a personal decision - I get it. Do your research and make your decision if you haven't already.
Thank You! for all of the prayers !"
:-)
Over Yonder 03:24 AM 07-22-2021
Originally Posted by Lex Luthor:
I'm glad you didn't die from COVID. And I'm glad that most of the people who get COVID don't die from it.

But the fact is that over 630,000 Americans have died from COVID. That's a huge number. More Americans have been killed by COVID than have been killed in all American wars. Combined.

We can't do anything for the people who have already been killed by COVID. But now, 99.5% of future COVID deaths could be eliminated if people would simply get vaccinated.

It's absolutely mind-boggling that people refuse to get the vaccine.



https://www.texastribune.org/2021/07...inated-deaths/
OK, I guess I was mistaken. You are a partisan on this issue. If you weren't, you would look at the countless number of us that went through the fire so to speak and then question why and how we did that. Then I think you would reasonably come to the conclusion that many of us have, that the vaccine is just fine for high risk folks or the folks that are scared of their own shadow. But the rest of us are fine with letting our immune systems earn it's pay. :-)

And a little tip, take it or leave it. Most every person on the planet is aware of Covid and the vaccine by now. Most everybody has heard the stats and have came to their conclusion based on what they feel is the best path for them. At this point in the game, very very few people are gonna change their minds. IF you are genuine in your quest to change minds (I now believe you are not) you are going about it all wrong. Posting like you did in the OP drives that wedge farther in. Most reasonable people are gonna tune you out instantly based on the picture and headline alone.

Like I said take it or leave it and good luck in your quest, whatever that may be :-)
Imon Yourside 03:32 AM 07-22-2021
Originally Posted by HybridEd:
One of my long time friends who is in his mid 50s just posted this on FB.

"On June 30 I got quite a sinus headache - I went in to my Dr's office the next morning and tested positive for Covid. To make a long story short - I ended up being transported by ambulance to St Luke's hospital in Overland Park. I was there for about a week with Covid Pneumonia. I am now at home in Branson rehabbing my lungs and trying to regain some of the 35 lbs I lost
The Dr told me I had a really bad case and am very fortunate to be alive.
To all of my friends - do not take this stuff lightly - I don't care if there is a 99% survival rate - You don't want it. While I was laying there wondering if I was going to live or die - I definitely did some soul searching wondering if I had done the right thing by not getting the vaccine. I will be taking it in October.
It's a personal decision - I get it. Do your research and make your decision if you haven't already.
Thank You! for all of the prayers !"
Good thing i'm only 51, I sneezed a couple of times from it.
MahomesMagic 04:17 AM 07-22-2021
Originally Posted by Lex Luthor:
A private citizen used Facebook to talk about her personal experiences. Not sure why you have a problem with that, other than your dogmatic position that vaccines are bad and COVID is a hoax.
So you shared a personal anecdote from a highly political doctor whose story looks like a copy and paste of the Covid Party deathbed confessions from last summer dressed up as a "news" story.

BTW, these I went to a Covid Party and now I see it's not a flu and now I'm going to die stories were never corroborated as true.

Covid Partiesí Are Not a Thing
No, Alabama frat boys arenít doing snot shots and betting on who can get sick first. Why does the media keep suggesting otherwise?

The press just canít stop pushing the narrative that people are trying to get themselves infected. And they always seem to push it the same way: Local reporters write down what some official said, and then national publications pick up those claims, citing the local reports as evidence. At no point in this chain has anyone bothered to confirm the underlying claim.
https://www.wired.com/story/covid-pa...e-not-a-thing/

You also gleefully shared a supposed story of an "anti-vaxxer" that died from Covid when the hospital disputes this and says she died from neurological complications and is conducting an autopsy.

Why are you spreading medical misinformation? Just because it feels like you scored political points?

As to your point that Covid is a hoax, you are a liar again. That has never been my position but you constantly lie on here and share fake news stories.

Why isn't the truth enough? Why does Covid need a multi-billion dollar marketing campaign along with dupes like yourself who lack basic critical thinking skills?

So this new Alabama doctor woman claims they confess their sins to speaking against Corona then she puts them on a ventilator to kill them?

If they can talk maybe she shouldn't be killing them on a ventilator.
BucEyedPea 06:12 AM 07-22-2021
Originally Posted by HybridEd:
One of my long time friends who is in his mid 50s just posted this on FB.

"On June 30 I got quite a sinus headache - I went in to my Dr's office the next morning and tested positive for Covid. To make a long story short - I ended up being transported by ambulance to St Luke's hospital in Overland Park. I was there for about a week with Covid Pneumonia. I am now at home in Branson rehabbing my lungs and trying to regain some of the 35 lbs I lost
The Dr told me I had a really bad case and am very fortunate to be alive.
To all of my friends - do not take this stuff lightly - I don't care if there is a 99% survival rate - You don't want it. While I was laying there wondering if I was going to live or die - I definitely did some soul searching wondering if I had done the right thing by not getting the vaccine. I will be taking it in October.
It's a personal decision - I get it. Do your research and make your decision if you haven't already.
Thank You! for all of the prayers !"
If I posted that it would be an anecdotal experience.

It apparently doesn't matter. Just like other illnesses where some in a family never contract something even when exposed,while some do .
You can still get it with the vaccine and even die on re-infection—because that has happened. You can still get it without having the vaccine—and even survive. There's no gaurantees in life. It still ain't small pox which had a 30% fatality rate. The only thing that matters if there is to be a forced vax program is how high the fatality rate is. And any vaccine should be effective and safe enough to make the trade off.
BucEyedPea 06:18 AM 07-22-2021
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
So you shared a personal anecdote from a highly political doctor...
It's really hilarious to me, that the people using personal anecdotes are the ones that have criticized other people for using anecdotal evidence here in the past. :-)

And only Lex would accuse someone of being an "anti-vaxxer" when they oppose a specific vaccine—one that has had more adverse incidents than all other vaccines combined in the past.
morphius 06:21 AM 07-22-2021
One of my sons teenage friends died from heart issues after the shot, just saying...
BucEyedPea 06:21 AM 07-22-2021
Originally Posted by Fish:
:-)
You're one of the ones who criticized posters here for using such anecdotal experience in the past.

Now, you're cheering it on. :-)

Empirical evidence about these vaccines is coming out more to back those who oppose these covid vaccines. Even by some of the inventors of them.

No one knows the long term effects yet, either.
MahomesMagic 06:25 AM 07-22-2021
True Story...


Between dancing for Tik-Tok and watching unvaccinated people tearfully splutter out their dying regrets with a ventilator shoved down their throats as I hold their hands, being a nurse right now sure is OVERWHELMING!!

The second I started my shift this morning the front doors to reception burst open and a thousand gurneys flooded into the hospital, all carrying people who were too damn selfish to get the jab. A cacophony of coughs from these creatures spread Covid throughout the hospital and a bunch of perfectly healthy stage three cancer patients immediately flatlined. Me and a couple of the other nurses were in the middle of a Cirque-du-soleil dance routine for Tik-Tok so not only were we caught off guard but our social media video was ruined!!

I shook my head and approached each and every one of the new patients, and to no one's surprise they were ALL unvaccinated! I could practically feel the Covid microparticles surrounding me; I can only hope my two jabs and three masks was enough to keep me safe. Before they were all admitted I delivered a blistering fire and brimstone lecture on misinformation and how foolish they all were to refuse the holy elixir; everyone clapped when it was over and all the unvaxxed hung their heads in shame. I felt like such a Queen.

The rest of my shift was spent alternating between dancing and holding the hands of those who had been admitted as they passed away. Literally all of them expressed regret, or at least I think they did, their words were garbled by the ventilators jammed down their throats. Besides Covid they were all fit and healthy; not one of them was older than 90 or over 260lb. I was performing the Cha-Cha Slide for another Tik-Tok video when I got the call for our final patient so I cha-cha'd real smooth to their bedside and clutched their hand as they whispered their final words to me past the tube in their throat:

"I wish... I wish I had gotten the Covid vaccine. Is it... is it too late?"

I shook my head sadly and looked down into his pleading, milky eyes, fighting a smirk beneath my masks.

"Oh sweetie... oh my sweet, selfish Summer child... I'm sorry but it's too late. You play stupid games, you win stupid prizes."

Then he died and I performed the Monkey in celebration, my gloved fists a total blur as my pace quickened aggressively and my fellow nurses and doctors joined in around the man's death bed, his family watching through a window and cheering along. I'm thinking of selling this totally real and not at all fabricated story to the BBC or some other news outlet to help convince the vaccine hesitant to get the damn jab!!
loochy 06:30 AM 07-22-2021
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
True Story...


Between dancing for Tik-Tok and watching unvaccinated people tearfully splutter out their dying regrets with a ventilator shoved down their throats as I hold their hands, being a nurse right now sure is OVERWHELMING!!

The second I started my shift this morning the front doors to reception burst open and a thousand gurneys flooded into the hospital, all carrying people who were too damn selfish to get the jab. A cacophony of coughs from these creatures spread Covid throughout the hospital and a bunch of perfectly healthy stage three cancer patients immediately flatlined. Me and a couple of the other nurses were in the middle of a Cirque-du-soleil dance routine for Tik-Tok so not only were we caught off guard but our social media video was ruined!!

I shook my head and approached each and every one of the new patients, and to no one's surprise they were ALL unvaccinated! I could practically feel the Covid microparticles surrounding me; I can only hope my two jabs and three masks was enough to keep me safe. Before they were all admitted I delivered a blistering fire and brimstone lecture on misinformation and how foolish they all were to refuse the holy elixir; everyone clapped when it was over and all the unvaxxed hung their heads in shame. I felt like such a Queen.

The rest of my shift was spent alternating between dancing and holding the hands of those who had been admitted as they passed away. Literally all of them expressed regret, or at least I think they did, their words were garbled by the ventilators jammed down their throats. Besides Covid they were all fit and healthy; not one of them was older than 90 or over 260lb. I was performing the Cha-Cha Slide for another Tik-Tok video when I got the call for our final patient so I cha-cha'd real smooth to their bedside and clutched their hand as they whispered their final words to me past the tube in their throat:

"I wish... I wish I had gotten the Covid vaccine. Is it... is it too late?"

I shook my head sadly and looked down into his pleading, milky eyes, fighting a smirk beneath my masks.

"Oh sweetie... oh my sweet, selfish Summer child... I'm sorry but it's too late. You play stupid games, you win stupid prizes."

Then he died and I performed the Monkey in celebration, my gloved fists a total blur as my pace quickened aggressively and my fellow nurses and doctors joined in around the man's death bed, his family watching through a window and cheering along. I'm thinking of selling this totally real and not at all fabricated story to the BBC or some other news outlet to help convince the vaccine hesitant to get the damn jab!!

It's like a romance novel based on COVID fear porn
BucEyedPea 06:39 AM 07-22-2021
This is only up to March 2021; numbers much higher now.
Attached: Comparable Drug Deaths to Covid Vax copy.jpg (34.0 KB) 
lawrenceRaider 07:59 AM 07-22-2021
Originally Posted by BucEyedPea:
This is only up to March 2021; numbers much higher now.
Darling, you need to post a link with that information not an infographic.
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