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Patteeu Memorial Political Forum>Are you going to take the vaccine?
GloryDayz 08:48 AM 12-01-2020
I know I'm going to try to be first in line, but what about the rest of you? I'm not sure if the death count is where the science community wants it to be, plus Birdbrain hasn't been sworn in, so I expect there will be delays, but that's beside the point.

You can be honest.
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Swanman 07:48 AM 07-17-2021
Originally Posted by Bob Dole:
Are you aware Trump isn't President?

TDS much?
He was when the pandemic started and his administration is to blame for a shitload of excess death.

And don't give me that TDS bullshit. Any sane, halfway intelligent adult would become deranged if forced to listen to that baboon talk for more than 30 seconds. Not to mention, all of you "conservatives" get the vapors and need your fainting couch any time Hillary/Obama/AOC/Bernie are mentioned. Everything is projection with you.

Gaslight
Obstruct
Project

Although a better initialization is GQP because the party has let itself be taken hostage by the conspiracy nuts.
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MahomesMagic 07:49 AM 07-17-2021
Originally Posted by BleedingRed:
What..... no they are not wtf
If you watch TV you will be subjected to non-stop propaganda like this:

SHOCKING BBC AND NHS PROPAGANDA UNCOVERED

You are not going to believe this one (or maybe you will), but bear with me. I had to triple check my figures on this just to reassure myself it was true.

Last night the esteemed
@BBCHughPym
, BBC health editor since March 2014, ran a seemingly alarming story about the Covid-19 situation in the North East, as you can see below.

With interviews from a respiratory consultant, medical director, elected city mayor, and local resident.


It featured as a segment on the 6 o’clock news, 10 o’clock news,
@BBCNEandCumbria
, as well as being one of the top stories online (see screenshot).

I have no way of calculating the audience reach but we can safely assume it was into the millions, nationwide and regionally.
The online headline told us that medical staff were “distressed” by a third wave.

The story begins with a war analogy from Dr Catherine Monaghan, respiratory consultant, who claimed: “We are planning for war and praying for peace."

Sounds serious, right?

Well that’s not the half of it.

Dr Monaghan paints a bleak picture of “exhausted and distressed” staff and critically unwell patients.

“I cannot quite believe we’re back at this stage again — it’s really worrying,” she says.


Crikey, this is from a doctor. It must be true.

Pym reports that there are 22 Covid patients in that specific hospital, five of whom are in intensive care. He says that number has “increased sharply” from just six in a single week.

Coupled with that, he talks about “surging” cases and “stretched” services.

Grim, grim, grim.

Mayor of Middlesbrough, Andy Preston (
@Tees_Issues
) says: “Rates are ballooning. This thing is spreading like wildfire across the whole region.”

Chris Tulloch, medical director for
@NTeesHpoolNHSFT
, said: “We are coping, but I would say we are just coping.”

Disaster imminentWarning sign

For your average viewer: the language, the war analogies, the professional status of the people saying these things is terrifying. Absolutely.

However one thing was missing as I watched it. They kept talking about surging cases, but we all know cases don’t equate to sick people.


We also know that Britain is testing at a ridiculously high rate —more than the rest of Europe combined.

And finally, we also know peer reviewed research suggests that up to 75% of PCR tests can give misleading results**.

So,what about deaths? Isn’t that the measure of a surge?

If NHS staff are “distressed”, it’s “spreading like wildfire”, and hospitals can “just about cope” then I was sure no mention of mortality figures was just an accidental omission & would paint a similar story to the one Pym and his colleagues like
@SharonBarbour
had promoted.

But alas, the BBC’s recent track record, coupled with my natural curiosity, totally got the better of me. So I did what many conspiracy theorists are derided for doing: yes, you’ve guessed it, I did my own research.

What I found, given the context above, actually blew my mind.

I logged onto NHS England and headed to “COVID-19 Daily Deaths” to find data on North Tees and Hartlepool NHS Foundation Trust.

For context, NTHNFT provides services to 400,000 people across two main hospital sites & three smaller community sites. 275m turnover and 5,500 staff.

Here they are on line 139 of the (enormous) Excel sheet, under Tab4 “Deaths by trust.”

I scrolled along until I got to the most recent date listed which was Tuesday (13 July).


To my surprise, deaths: 0.
I tabbed to the next date: 0.
The next: 0.


In fact, according to this NHS England data (which you can freely check), the North Tees and Hartlepool NHS Foundation Trust hasn’t reported a single Covid-19 death for 76 consecutive days, going right back to 28 April 2001

Let me repeat that: NO DEATHS FOR SEVENTY-SIX DAYS

On 28 April there was, sadly, one death.

You then have to scroll for another 13 days, until 15 April, to find another one death.

In other words, two Covid-19 deaths in two months — or one a month. As I said, I had to check this several times to be sure, and I am 100% sure.

Maybe
@BBCHughPym
&
@NTeesHpoolNHSFT
would care to answer:

• why did you omit to mention no deaths in 76 days?
• if you can only just cope when dealing with 0 deaths, are you fit for purpose?


Someone should probably refer this matter to the BBC’s disinformation unit

ENDS

As ever, thanks for your support. A share is always gratefully received so we can continue exposing these mattersFolded hands
#FakeNews #Casedemic #COVID19 #EnoughIsEnough #NoVaccinePassports #BBC #bbcnews #DefundTheBBC #FullFact #ImDone #TheMediaIsTheVirus #Vaccination #CovidIsNotOver

��SHOCKING BBC AND NHS PROPAGANDA UNCOVERED����

You are not going to believe this one (or maybe you will), but bear with me. I had to triple check my figures on this just to reassure myself it was true.

And what’s more, this is likely to be happening every single day.
More���� pic.twitter.com/mYmVUcmIfc

— Towny (@James_Townsend9) July 15, 2021

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Donger 09:03 AM 07-17-2021
About 3,200 COVID patients are hospitalized in the state, a jump of 73% since June 14, when 1,845 were hospitalized. The number had been falling since mid-January when nearly 7,800 were hospitalized just as the vaccination program began. Meanwhile, the number of vaccinations administered weekly has fallen by almost 80% statewide since April even though less than 60% of the population 12 and older is fully vaccinated.

Florida now has the fourth-highest per-capita hospitalization rate in the U.S., behind Nevada, Missouri and Arkansas, according to Jason Salemi, a University of South Florida epidemiologist tracking the national outbreak for more than a year.
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baitism 09:11 AM 07-17-2021

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baitism 09:13 AM 07-17-2021
Originally Posted by Donger:
About 3,200 COVID patients are hospitalized in the state, a jump of 73% since June 14, when 1,845 were hospitalized. The number had been falling since mid-January when nearly 7,800 were hospitalized just as the vaccination program began. Meanwhile, the number of vaccinations administered weekly has fallen by almost 80% statewide since April even though less than 60% of the population 12 and older is fully vaccinated.

Florida now has the fourth-highest per-capita hospitalization rate in the U.S., behind Nevada, Missouri and Arkansas, according to Jason Salemi, a University of South Florida epidemiologist tracking the national outbreak for more than a year.
No one cares. Numbers are manipulated to scare sheep like you. COVID has never been a threat to healthy people.
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eDave 09:14 AM 07-17-2021
Originally Posted by BleedingRed:
You guys will say/believe anything to justify your fear
A (R)/Trump guy said this. Haha.
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Donger 09:17 AM 07-17-2021
Originally Posted by baitism:
No one cares. Numbers are manipulated to scare sheep like you. COVID has never been a threat to healthy people.
Of course people care. You don't, and that's fine. I have very little reason to be fearful. I'm fully vaccinated.
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MahomesMagic 09:18 AM 07-17-2021
Originally Posted by baitism:
Looks like Dinger, Little Adolf, and the Lawnmower Man!

:-)
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baitism 09:20 AM 07-17-2021
Originally Posted by Donger:
Of course people care. You don't, and that's fine. I have very little reason to be fearful. I'm fully vaccinated.
Then why are you on here spreading your fear porn?
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Donger 09:20 AM 07-17-2021
Originally Posted by Swanman:
600,000 deaths out of 34 million cases. 1.76%. Oh, let me guess, only 45 of those deaths are actually covid. It's hard to keep up with the conspiracy theories.

Worldwide - 4 million deaths out of 190 million cases - 2.1%. Oh, sorry, only 75 of those deaths are real.

Unlike some of the dipshits on this board, I put some trust in reported data. The numbers are not going to be perfect but close enough to give an idea as to what's going on. There are going to be areas with under-reporting and areas with over-reporting that will hopefully cancel each other out to an extent. But according to the same dipshits, every single death in the country is being falsely reported as covid, because some crazy uncle read it on Facebook.
1.76% is the CFR, not the IFR. IFR in the US is ~.7%
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Donger 09:20 AM 07-17-2021
Originally Posted by baitism:
Then why are you on here spreading your fear porn?
I'm not. I'm providing data. Do with it what you will.
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MahomesMagic 09:24 AM 07-17-2021
Originally Posted by baitism:
Then why are you on here spreading your fear porn?
I looked up Infection Fatality Rate for anyone under 70 last Spring...

it was .05 or less.

So basically, this whole time, unless you were in a care home, or were extremely sick on the edge of death, there was no health crisis for the majority of the population.

I do think we could have protected the elderly better( hell, if we could have got them an extra 6 months of life, sure, why not). But instead of having us build population immunity, the healthy hid in their homes. This meant the average age of the infections was higher, more death.

And in the panic, Covid patients were shuttled in large groups back into nursing homes.

Monumental stupidity. And it had nothing to do with the rest of wearing masks or pretending we were stopping a highly contagious respiratory virus that had been spreading uncontrolled in the US for months.
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BucEyedPea 09:34 AM 07-17-2021
Originally Posted by baitism:
No one cares. Numbers are manipulated to scare sheep like you. COVID has never been a threat to healthy people.
Was always a mild to moderate illness for 80%. It's how the data gets framed and manipulated.
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Bowser 09:49 AM 07-17-2021
Originally Posted by eDave:
A (R)/Trump guy said this. Haha.
*sang in loud operatic voice*

myyyyy
RUUUUSHHH-AHHHHHHHHHHH


*wild ovation*
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MahomesMagic 09:55 AM 07-17-2021

Controversial Covid “expert” Peter Hotez just claimed on CNN that “up to 30% of children infected will develop long-haul Covid-19”

Why should this type of harmful Covid misinformation be allowed, while others are censored?

— Eli Klein (@TheEliKlein) July 17, 2021


You are allowed to post Covid misinformation as long as it helps sell fear and the vaccines.
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