Yeah hindsight is 20/20 and admittedly I didn't know much about Wilson at draft time, but then again I'm not paid to scout and draft players for a team that desperately needs a QB. Oh well I guess at least we got Donald Stephenson from OU.........yay..... [Reply]
Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning:
Dex doesn't have a single TD as a WR.
Tate had two in ONE GAME.
Hmm thats funny, he was playing slot receiver as a rookie and had a touchdown against San Francisco, or did you forget bout that. He didnt shift into the backfield until last year after Charles went down with a season ending knee injury. [Reply]
Originally Posted by royr17:
Dude, I mean seriously who gives a flying fuck if he's catching passes out of the backfield or in the slot, as long as he contributing to helping make plays and helping this team thats all that matters. There is so much more you can do with McCluster. He can run, catch, return kicks, play the slot, create mismatches, he's a utility player that can cause some serious problems for defenses.
What's great about Dex is he sucks as a kick returner and doesn't do that anymore.
But idiots like you love to bring that up as a plus for him. :-) [Reply]
Originally Posted by royr17:
Hmm thats funny, he was playing slot receiver as a rookie and had a touchdown against San Francisco, or did you forget bout that.
He was lined up as a running back on that play, doofus. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning:
He was lined up as a running back on that play, doofus.
your a dumbass, it doesnt fuckin matter, he's here to help the team, i'd rather have a player that can contribute in multiple ways compare to one way. [Reply]
Originally Posted by royr17:
your a dumbass, it doesnt fuckin matter, he's here to help the team, i'd rather have a player that can contribute in multiple ways compare to one way.
He doesn't contribute in multiple ways any more.
He's a wide receiver now, and nothing else.
Not a RB.
Not a KR.
And now that he's sustained serious injury twice in three seasons, he looks like the bust I had him tabbed to be.
Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning:
What's great about Dex is he sucks as a kick returner and doesn't do that anymore.
But idiots like you love to bring that up as a plus for him. :-)
No he's not doin that anymore due to their love for Arenas. I'd rather have McCluster returning kicks and punts instead of Arenas. Arenas has been complete shit as a returner. Wanna talk bout wasted pick, Arenas definately is, all he is good at is blitzing the corner on a nickle blitz. [Reply]
Originally Posted by PGM:
So, Tate's a gawd in his 3rd year for "catching" an INT, but we cry about Baldwin not being a stud yet and Dwayne Bowe flexing. Got it. :-)
Um, no.
The jury is out on Baldwin. I haven't said one word about him, nor did I see him referenced in the ongoing discussion.
And I've been one of THE most-vocal people calling HackJob an idiot for the way he's beat the dead horse on Bowe. Bowe is a stud, he deserves to flex.
The discussion, that I saw, was about Dexter McCluster and while I appreciate what he brings to this team, he's not Golden Tate and never will be. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning:
He doesn't contribute in multiple ways any more.
He's a wide receiver now, and nothing else.
Not a RB.
Not a KR.
And now that he's sustained serious injury twice in three seasons, he looks like the bust I had him tabbed to be.
The end of Dex...is coming.
hopefully the end of you comes soon. dex is injured for one pupose, our QB sucks and he had to literally jump out of a building to attempt to catch the pass, thats a injury that could have happened to anyone. [Reply]
Originally Posted by royr17:
No he's not doin that anymore due to their love for Arenas. I'd rather have McCluster returning kicks and punts instead of Arenas. Arenas has been complete shit as a returner. Wanna talk bout wasted pick, Arenas definately is, all he is good at is blitzing the corner on a nickle blitz.
LOL WUT?
Javier Arenas was one of the top 8-10 punt returners in the fucking league last year Roy... [Reply]
Originally Posted by royr17:
No he's not doin that anymore due to their love for Arenas. I'd rather have McCluster returning kicks and punts instead of Arenas. Arenas has been complete shit as a returner. Wanna talk bout wasted pick, Arenas definately is, all he is good at is blitzing the corner on a nickle blitz.
They're both fairly shitty Pioli 2nd round picks. [Reply]
Originally Posted by royr17:
hopefully the end of you comes soon. dex is injured for one pupose, our QB sucks and he had to literally jump out of a building to attempt to catch the pass, thats a injury that could have happened to anyone.
Javier Arenas was one of the top 8-10 punt returners in the ****ing league last year Roy...
yea maybe last year, but he's never been able to take it to the house. they spent a 2nd rounder on a KR/PR, i mean come on now, you can find them later in the draft and plus his coverage skills suck as a corner too. everybody is entitled to their own opinion and this is mine, arenas sucks. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning:
The debate is who is better as a WR.
Comparing RB receiving yards to WR receiving yards is comparing apples to oranges.
Dex sucks as a WR because he's not very good at beating CBs and is useless going down the field.
He can produce some receiving yards as a RB because he's matched up on linebackers, can catch screens, etc.
That doesn't translate to his play as a WR.
He has about 300 yards as an actual WR, doing WR things, running routes. Period.
End of discussion.
Nobody is arguing who the better true WR is! You just now invented that it is all of the sudden a debate about the better WR because you failed at who the better player is. You said Tate > McCluster without the caveat "as a WR."
So I will say again, Calvin Johnson is better than Ray Rice at doing WR things, but Ray Rice is still the better football player that most people would prefer to have. [Reply]
Originally Posted by royr17:
yea maybe last year, but he's never been able to take it to the house. they spent a 2nd rounder on a KR/PR, i mean come on now, you can find them later in the draft and plus his coverage skills suck as a corner too. everybody is entitled to their own opinion and this is mine, arenas sucks.
He beat out McCluster for the return job. If he sucks, so does McCluster.
