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Wallcrawler 09:39 PM 12-04-2022
The Chiefs are 9-3 with a cupcake schedule coming up. The Chiefs just got spanked in a playoff atmosphere game where we really wanted the game, did a lot of trash talking, and lost the football game, and now we have some subpar teams to get the bullshit worked out before shit gets real.

1. Harrison Butker right now is not that clutch guy that you can rely on. Arguably, he never has been. 13 seconds doesn't happen if the guy doesn't leave 4 points on the field in the first place, and we were just very fortunate he made good on the 49 yarder to tie. Andy is going to have to understand when it's better to just put the ball in 15s hands, and let the chips fall where they may. Watching this dude kick in big moments this year is giving me serious 90s vibes.

2. Justin Reid should never open his mouth about an opponent again. What an embarrassment.

3. If this is the effort we are going to get from Chris Jones and the d line against the NFL playoff teams, then we're in some deep shit right now. The leagues most sacked qb, and we can't lay a finger on him. In the biggest games, 95 disappears entirely.

4. Seminars should be held for the o line on knowing where the line of scrimmage is at all times, and keeping your ass within one yard. Countless HUGE plays taken off the board this season by this ineligible downfield idiocy. It's basic football.

5. Gotta stop blaming the refs for everything. The Chiefs are one of the least penalized teams in football, and screeching for penalties on the opposition every play is just blood belching vagina league. If we need the refs to help us get stops, then we aren't playing well enough to win. Period. The interception only happened because of the PI. The big first down got called back because Allegretti and Wylie didn't know their assholes from their elbows.

6. The redzone is not the place for experimentation. Second time in as many weeks we see Andy waste a down on some hare brained stupid bullshit that goes utterly nowhere. Redzone is serious business, not fucking mad scientist playtime. If your play design has Mahomes lined up at wide receiver, please delete this formation, because you are a dumbass.

7. Steve Spagnuolo needs to get the NFL rulebook and read the part in there where running backs can legally catch the ball. Nobody gives up more passing yards to backs than Steve Spagnuolo.

8. Steve Spagnuolo needs to commit to stopping the oppositions best player. Not come out in base sets and allow Chase to line up against whoever he wants. At no time should this guy have been singled up, but we played this guy as if he were just another offensive player.

9. Kelce is a beast. But hero ball right there wasn't needed. We had a huge gain, the first down, just get down. Don't plow into 3 guys like you're on the goal line and keep chugging to eliminate forward progress saving you as you get held up and stripped. We weren't anywhere near that type of desperation big dog.

10. In games that come down to the wire like this every situation has to be handled correctly. Lot of situational football scenarios, the coaches and players simply had the wrong answer. That's how you lose football games.


As I said near the end of the game, this is the best thing for them. A game that's gonna hurt, and leave a bad taste, and motivate the coaches and players to get out of this sleepwalking mode they've been in.

One seed is gone, you've been spanked a third time by the team that beat your ass twice and stole a superbowl trip from you in your own house.

It's a reality check that says "Hey, assholes. You're not as good as you fucking think you are. Hold this hot, flaming L."

In a perfect world, this is the herd of Clydesdales pulling the collective heads out of the asses of the Kansas City Chiefs that will ignite a new work ethic, leading to a new winning streak rolling into the playoffs and culminating in a superbowl win.
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Wallcrawler 09:53 AM 12-06-2022
Originally Posted by irafreak:
Let's see...I agree with number 2, Reid should keep a low profile. And number 4, the players need time to adjust to the new strict enforcement of the rule so that will clean up in time. Everything else...oh boy.

A hard fought game against the defending afc champs and we got spanked? We moved the ball well. They moved the ball well. Two high powered offenses. I don't understand how anyone expected different.

Idiocy by Brandon Staley guest coaching at the end of half left 3 off the board. A wide open dropped td pass left another 7. The Bengals left 10 points on the field and still won by 3. We never saw the ball again after Butker took a shit on the field. The Chiefs were outplayed badly in this game. They have legitimate self inflicted stupidity that cost them points. We have a bunch of doorknob ****ing reeruns screeching about officials.

We need line help but Jones isn't the problem. He's the only piece doing his job...taking up double and triple teams. The Bengals schemed him out. That simple.

I'm glad this only happens to Chris in the biggest games.

And if every team could just shut down chase, don't you think they'd do it? Look how many teams commit to stopping kelce...

How did Chase get his yards?

Was it a case of brilliant scheme simply outdone by an amazing athlete that you just tip your cap to?

Or was it some really braindead shit like putting Williams on Chase in single coverage, instead of McDuffie or Sneed?

These are the things you look at. At no time should Jamar Chase be in single coverage. None. We see Big-time defensive plans focus on taking away the biggest threat all the time.

Spags didn't do any of that. Chase was allowed to line up on whoever he pleased, and the running backs were handed free first downs on catches out of the backfield all night.

So yeah.

This angry, motivated, vengeful team rolled in there and lost by 3 when they really should have lost by 16-20 points had 2 different coaching decisions been made, and a wide open pass caught for a td.

Spanked. Outplayed, pushed around, bullied, take your pick.

We have some get right games, and this loss happened at the best time.

This was a team that was winning games with some sleepwalking sloppy football being produced, and winning, it's harder to take seriously that you need to pick it up.

Getting your ass kicked for a 3rd straight time by the team that took your SB trip, that should fuel a lot of corrections.
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Best22 10:49 AM 12-06-2022
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
This wasn't just about Burrow. Or Mahomes. Or Travis' drop, or any one thing.

But Burrow has the luxury this season of having two legit WQR1s. The Chiefs do not.

And there was a pile of other issues as well, but as far as offensive weapons, CIN had more top tier weapons than KC did yesterday.
They have a cheap QB

Chiefs already got their SB with a cheap QB. So roster wise the Bengals should have the upper hand, and this is what we’ll deal with in the future. Same with the Dolphins. Hopefully there won’t be as many elite QBs entering the league in the next few years
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Red Dawg 11:16 AM 12-06-2022
One seed isn't gone. Win out and Buff stumbles and we get it. Cincy, Miami or Jets may help us out but we have no room for error. Lose another game and it's gone.
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Chief Pagan 11:52 AM 12-06-2022
1.0. That was a poor snap on that long field goal attempt at the end. He did a good job getting it down, but it still effected the timing.
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htismaqe 12:45 PM 12-06-2022
Originally Posted by Best22:
They have a cheap QB

Chiefs already got their SB with a cheap QB. So roster wise the Bengals should have the upper hand, and this is what we’ll deal with in the future. Same with the Dolphins. Hopefully there won’t be as many elite QBs entering the league in the next few years
It remains to be seen how those teams manage to stay together once they pay their QB. It gets tougher every year to keep these all-star teams together.
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crispystl 12:49 PM 12-06-2022
Originally Posted by kcclone:
This is why we need to trade Jones this off season. You NEED an edge rusher to consistently rush the QB. We don’t have one. We could trade Jones and move up to a top 8, not to mention he will free up a lot of cap room. That along with Frank should allow us to rebuild the DL and possibly upgrade RT.

Dunlap is by far our best edge right now. Karlaftis and Dana are solid backups.
I'm actually starting to lean this way too.
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crispystl 12:54 PM 12-06-2022
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
I agree.

I think having Thuney out, and Wylie and Alegretti in gave Andy pause.
That play with McKinnon in the wildcat really pissed me off. What a WASTE of a down. I HATE when teams put a RB in the wildcat just to let him take it on an obvious keeper. Just hand the damn ball off..at least there's some doubt for the defense then.
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